HDAV Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Apologies if this has been posted before but http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/19/rscpa_firearms_info/ Should the RSPCA have access to details held on the National Firearms Licensing Database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 No they bloody shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Not in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 HDAV - it has been on before. I do not agree with them having access, without being subject to audit - to ensure they only ask where they are genuinely considering a prosecution. In addition, I would demand that there is a proper trail justifying why they are asking for the information and just what firearms had got to do with them. Vehicle details perhaps, but firearms - it's a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 why would they need this info,if an animal is being illtreated then that is a case on its own and if someone is guilty of cruelty then their cert if they have any should be revoked.i have no time for the rspca I have seen the trouble they can cause for innocent people because of reports by nasty minded little people.and can you imagine how the anti's would get into the rspca and the problems they could cause for fac holders then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 no time for the rspca,and no they should not be able to look who has guns,they are a waist of time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 How it is possible that no one has been prosecuted under data protection laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) They just sign up to a Memorandum of Understanding, Information Sharing Agreement or Statement of Intent. Information is then passed to them via a legal gateway. What isn't clear is just what justification they had to ask for such an agreement and why the Police agreed to co-sign. It needs clarification from the Information Commissioner at Wilmslow. I am not aware that Greater Manchester Police have signed any such agreement. If they did, I would be contacting the ICO rather rapidly. Edited November 18, 2013 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Whats more worrying is dont the firearms authority have a duty to protect your information.This information should not be disclosed to anybody.Thats like a 3rd party asking HMRC to send them your full employment history/pay and tax.Can we have the information of every employee who works for the RSPCA/RSPB, I dont think so. Edited November 18, 2013 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 No way IMO but think it's too late now, wonder if they lost charter wether this would remain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 It only takes one rough RSPCA employee to pass a FAC/SGC holders details on to an anti group & someone could find their windows going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 It only takes one rough RSPCA employee to pass a FAC/SGC holders details on to an anti group & someone could find their windows going through. Yep that's top on my list of concerns lots of wannabe do gooders passing info out there or people being threatened to give firearms details over to crooks n gangs, easier target for them than corrupt police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 The RSPCA don't know **** about what they are supposed to do already, let's not overload them!! A friend of mine from Uni found a downed bat and rang the RSPCA, he was advised that if it couldn't fly to kill it which is a criminal offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I have nothing against the RSPCA but strongly feel that our information should be protected by the police.They have a duty to protect our personal information.The RSPCA need to concentrate on the welfare of protected and domestic animals.About 3 mth ago I went round my allotment @ on thr field was a tethered horse that had cut itself on the fence and was bleeding heavily from one of its legs which had heen sliced down to the bone.I rang 114114 and asked to be put through to RSPCA on answering I told them what had happened and that this animal was in great distress.She said that the nearest officer was in Bishop Auckland some 20mls away.Ok what you going to do, nothing she said its too late in the evening anyway.Thats nice I said sorry to have troubled you.I think they need to get their own house in order. Edited November 18, 2013 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Absolutely not! They are a charity. Why would they need such information!? Davyo - what happened to the horse in the end then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 They are a charity haha a very big and very wealthy charity at that, who send their staff out in uniform so as to appear as though they have authority of which they have none, . I have no time for them EVER........ My mrs wanted to rescue a couple of cats once...... Rescue my elbow they were £90 each and when they chewed our new home to bits it was £50 each to take them back. They have no right to information about us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldred4 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 RSPCA used to use a lot of contractors at their headquarters in Sussex. I know this as one used to be my lodger when I lived that way and he was working on their IT system. The potential for information to fall into the wrong hands is huge especially if they still have a high turnover of agency contract staff. It wouldnt be the first time an activist has taken a job on to gain information and contracting is simple. Get what you need and leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Malik, after speaking to very unhelpfull and uncaring RSPCA, I was in the process of phoning the police when the local pretendy gypsy turned up.He got a mouthful and i kept asking him if he has insurance to get the vet out.He just took the horse away.Ihavent seen it again.The problem is I was totally shocked by the actions of the RSPCA plus what drew my attension in the 1st place was 2 young girls with their grandfather trying to get it off the fence.The 2 girls where intears and neither of them had a mobile.The old bloke couldnt beleive it when I told him what the RSPCA said. I can wait till am out shopping andone of there collectors rattles a charity tinin my faceIam not going to be rude but just tell them what happened and wait for an explination. Edited November 19, 2013 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 My old man worked for the RSPCA in Coventry in the 1960's , he left after six months very disillusioned that his job roll mainly consisted of collecting animals then taking them to the vet to be killed but I hear the top three bosses get half a million a year between them in wages that has been donated by Little old ladies who want to help animals so why should they care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 What is sad is their rescue centers aren't funded by them from what I understand so when people donate money thinking it's going to help animals it's actually funding the huge building full of administrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 What is sad is their rescue centers aren't funded by them from what I understand so when people donate money thinking it's going to help animals it's actually funding the huge building full of administrators. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodydog Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Not at all bunch of nosey *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRebel Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 They are a private charity. They have no more right than Tesco do to have access to such information. When I do apply for my SGC/FAC (in the hopefully not too distant future), I will be making it very clear to the FLO that I do not consent for any of my information to be shared with any organisation outside of the police force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 They are a private charity. They have no more right than Tesco do to have access to such information. When I do apply for my SGC/FAC (in the hopefully not too distant future), I will be making it very clear to the FLO that I do not consent for any of my information to be shared with any organisation outside of the police force. I think I can guarantee your FEO will know **** all about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louiej Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Whats more worrying is dont the firearms authority have a duty to protect your information.This information should not be disclosed to anybody.Thats like a 3rd party asking HMRC to send them your full employment history/pay and tax.Can we have the information of every employee who works for the RSPCA/RSPB, I dont think so. Edited by Davyo, 18 November 2013 - 11:17 PM. Amen , not a more more true word spoken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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