strangford wildfowler Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 As stated in the title what are the best after market chokes? And do any of you guys use them, and what do you make of them? Sorry for the multiple questions but some help would be much appreciated. Cheers SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Let the selling begin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 The best ones are the free ones........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowlingmad Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 My advise to you as a young shooter would be learn about and understand chokes, then forget about them. It is of my own opinion that people get too wrapped up with the technicalities, at the end of the day get a decent cartridge in a gun that you can shoot and then forget about everything else and concentrate on that target in that moment in time. Unless you are shooting at a very high standard i.e. serious completion clays then that few % difference in pattern is not going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things. You'd get better results spending that money practising or pattern testing different cartridges to find the best one for your current set up IMO. If you were looking for a direct answer and this is unhelpful then I apologise. Happy Fowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 My advise to you as a young shooter would be learn about and understand chokes, then forget about them. It is of my own opinion that people get too wrapped up with the technicalities, at the end of the day get a decent cartridge in a gun that you can shoot and then forget about everything else and concentrate on that target in that moment in time. Unless you are shooting at a very high standard i.e. serious completion clays then that few % difference in pattern is not going to make a difference in the grand scheme of things. You'd get better results spending that money practising or pattern testing different cartridges to find the best one for your current set up IMO. If you were looking for a direct answer and this is unhelpful then I apologise. Happy Fowling. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I just shoot half choke and get on with it. Was going to buy an aftermarket choke but couldn't be bothered. If the bird is in range it'll come down anyway,(I think it may be more of a sales gimmick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Cheers for the advice guys I was just.wondering do they make any difference, but judging from you lot just stick with normal chokes. Cheers for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Cheers for the advice guys I was just.wondering do they make any difference, but judging from you lot just stick with normal chokes. Cheers for the help. Yes, they can make a difference. I can't get a good enough pattern at range with my factory 1/2 chokes in my 10 or 12. The Terror chokes I am now using give good patterns with large shot at 50+ yards. If you limit your range to 35-40 yards, then factory chokes will probably be adequate. Only pattern testing will tell you if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Yes, they can make a difference. I can't get a good enough pattern at range with my factory 1/2 chokes in my 10 or 12. The Terror chokes I am now using give good patterns with large shot at 50+ yards. If you limit your range to 35-40 yards, then factory chokes will probably be adequate. Only pattern testing will tell you if that is the case. Thanks motty I've heard about these terror chokes and that there quite good do you know how much they are to buy? Cheers SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Before I took a dive into the murky world of after market chokes I actually patterned my gun with the existing factory chokes and found that it threw perfectly adequate patterns. Whilst I do`nt doubt that after market chokes can effectively do as they claim, especially with regard to long range performance,I had to honestly answer the question, can I actually hit birds at the sorts of ranges being claimed? And the honest answer was "no". So for me at least,they are a path that I`ve decided not to go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Let me say there is a heck of a lot of BS spoken of them. Claims from manufacturers are often just saying what the prospective purchaser wants to hear and frankly unfounded. That said I am very keen on pattern testing and I have found the Kicks modified will shoot a better pattern (quite markedly so) with certain shells over and above what the factory modified will in my own gun, the issue is then the gun will pattern beyond the range that 1. I can consistently shoot 2. were the shot has the required energy to kill (unless I get a lucky strike in a sweet spot). The ported chokes do keep the gun more on a level plane, the downside is they are certainly more noisy for the dog and shooter (though the latter can wear plugs) As for shortening the shot string- steel is shorter than lead anyway and the main reason you need to commit with confidence to the shot! If one manufacturers claim is correct then I should give those particular chokes a miss. To sum up if you have the time and facility to test on paper or plate and the cash to lash give it a go by all means, just don't expect a heavier sack walking off the marsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Cheers once again for your.views guys most helpful. Atb SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I just shoot half choke and get on with it. Was going to buy an aftermarket choke but couldn't be bothered. If the bird is in range it'll come down anyway,(I think it may be more of a sales gimmick). +1 Half choke with steel its where you put it that counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I have owned virtually every choke made - sadly - if I had to pick just one, it would be Muller chokes. The rest seem very similar - these are the only ones that stand out from the crowd. They are incredibly light and easy to clean / don't actually need cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 +1 Half choke with steel its where you put it that counts That is correct, but when you put your shot on the target, will there be enough strikes to bring it down? If any given choke throws a great pattern at the desired distance, then that's all you need. For general flightpond shooting I prefer a half choke; i'm unlikely to encounter too many long shots and it'll do the job. But for high flying pinks I want as many pellets on the target as I can muster. For me, a half choke won't provide me with what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian g Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 i use the standardd 1/2 choke for everything apart from when am after geese mainly canadas i use the patternmaster goose choke which is iv been told is a full choke i find it realy hard hitting on the geese were geese in the same range though the standard half choke i didnt seem to bring them down as easy as said above dont get to caught up on them standard half will be good enough for most situations iv tryed other chokes and always gone back to the standard half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 No matter how many strikes you get the shot still needs to arrive with sufficient authority to get the deed done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I bought brieley chokes hoping I would instantly become a better shot. The order should be gun fit, skill level and the correct cartridge, don't waste your money unless you need a slight edge on a oponent at a high level. My chokes did not make me shoot any straighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I bought brieley chokes hoping I would instantly become a better shot. The order should be gun fit, skill level and the correct cartridge, don't waste your money unless you need a slight edge on a oponent at a high level. My chokes did not make me shoot any straighter. I like your honesty, very refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Let me say there is a heck of a lot of BS spoken of them. Claims from manufacturers are often just saying what the prospective purchaser wants to hear and frankly unfounded. That said I am very keen on pattern testing and I have found the Kicks modified will shoot a better pattern (quite markedly so) with certain shells over and above what the factory modified will in my own gun, the issue is then the gun will pattern beyond the range that 1. I can consistently shoot 2. were the shot has the required energy to kill (unless I get a lucky strike in a sweet spot). The ported chokes do keep the gun more on a level plane, the downside is they are certainly more noisy for the dog and shooter (though the latter can wear plugs) As for shortening the shot string- steel is shorter than lead anyway and the main reason you need to commit with confidence to the shot! If one manufacturers claim is correct then I should give those particular chokes a miss. To sum up if you have the time and facility to test on paper or plate and the cash to lash give it a go by all means, just don't expect a heavier sack walking off the marsh Are you using the KIcks High Flyer chokes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 The only noticeable positive effect that my aftermarket extended chokes have had is that I can easily check my chokes are tight while out shooting. Not a bad thing when using hp steel though .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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