red_stag88 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Evening all, Having just put my pump action in the bath after an evening flight, I got to wondering what others are using on the shore? I struggle to shoot well with the pump. Mainly due to being a bad shot more than anything. I have also noticed its propensity to rust, even with a thin coat of mud enough to leave small stains. This is rather disappointing considering it is a supernova and meant to be tough. I was thinking about getting a cheap over under for the job. Your views would be welcome. Cheers Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) i am new to wildfowling with this being my first season. my first trip i took my remington 870 pump and although my first proper outing with the gun i shot unusually well and dropped a few birds.. since then i have taken my benelli uper black eagle 2 which i unfortunatly cant shoot that well (am doing my best to get used to it but cant get my eye in) the one real issue i have is rust... i got home an hour ago to find my gun covered in rust yet again.. roll on the end of the season and ill be getting it cerakoted Edited January 4, 2014 by kiffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I used to use a Remmie 870 and it was fine, could rattle off two or three nearly as quickly as I could with an auto. If you're going to get the gun muddy you might as well stick with what you've got and just give it a proper strip down clean every time you've been out. You won't be able to tear down an OU as quickly and easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Remington or Browning/Winchester Semi auto, Never let me down once and the yanks love them for wild fowling for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) This is rather disappointing considering it is a supernova and meant to be tough. Out of interest, do you have the Matt black supernova? I did, and had the same problem with barrel rusting. I P/X'd mine for a camo version and never looked back. It's the best wildfowling gun I've owned (although I've only had 4 specifically for the marsh). Edited January 4, 2014 by Wildfowler12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kent Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I have used the SX3 camo auto for four or five seasons, its got a rust proof plating under the camo and I maintain it correctly no issues at all with rust and I do quite a bit. That said is not too bad when I am out with one of my blues s/s guns, but it is as always get home Dog, gun, self in that order. I travel between 40 mins and just over 2 hrs each way to shoot so don't take it I live a short walk from the marsh and the gun hasn't time to spoil. Are you putting it in an absorbent slip? this might be your issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I usually shoot an auto, but would prefer to take a side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Kent, It was an half hour walk back to the car where it had a wipe and coat of thin oil, then an hour to home. I'm not sure if the slip is absorbent. Wildfowler12, Yes it is the black version. I'm not a huge fan of camo guns, but in this case it would appear that I have made a mistake. Why on earth would benelli not offer the same rust protection with a black finish? Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Halfords sell a light spray grease. I give my barrels a wipe over with this before going out and have no rust problems. A word of caution. Don't use it on the action as it will pick up sand etc and act as grinding paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have used a sbs boxlock in the past but feel much happier putting non-tox through my semi auto. Its a browning gold (pic on the semi auto club thread if you want). Its covered in a rubbery finish called duratouch or duratech I think. Its very grippy and doesn't feel cold to the touch. I'm not bothered about the realtree finish, but I don't find it too offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Kent, It was an half hour walk back to the car where it had a wipe and coat of thin oil, then an hour to home. I'm not sure if the slip is absorbent. Wildfowler12, Yes it is the black version. I'm not a huge fan of camo guns, but in this case it would appear that I have made a mistake. Why on earth would benelli not offer the same rust protection with a black finish? Johnny right, you problem is your oiling over the salt contamination. You must clean the gun off well before you put oil on it. Its not unusual for me to run a gun under the shower etc, a wipe down with a cloth and warm soapy water is more common though. You must neutralise the contamination and the gun must be dried before you oil it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Thanks for the advice kent. I'll do that in the future. Any tips for getting rid of the brown rust stain that has appeared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Thanks for the advice kent. I'll do that in the future. Any tips for getting rid of the brown rust stain that has appeared? Remove it and neutralise it. Depends what its on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's on the barrel which is a Matt finish and quote rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I have used most types of fowling guns over the years.......single 4, double 8, S/A 10, S/A 12 (Browning, Beretta etc), double SBS 12,....got shut of all the S/A's now....for a variety of reasons but mainly because I couldn't shoot well with em (bar the Browning Gold 3 1/2" S/A 12 that is!) and safety wise...... you can't at a glance check down the barrel for obstructions, and because S/A's don't break so others cannot easily see the gun is empty!........... and annoying wise..... the empties were scattered over a wide area (and when picked up, were often contaminated with mud and salt water and rusted before you got home!......not good for reloading)........ and of course the empty cases are impossible to find in the dark! I currently use a12 x 3 1/2" O/U (and of course the 4 & 8 Bores!) early days with it yet, but the O/U 12 appears to tick most boxes for me............but if all else fails I still have my Midland 3" mag SBS 12 as a fall back...... Oh and the gun is finished in 'Duratouch' infinity camo.....so rust is not an issue! To remove rust (redrust!) I have used cabinet makers wirewool in 0000grade (I think it is?) soaked in paraffin/oil to good effect, without it removing the Blacking....but don't rub too hard/long!! Edited January 5, 2014 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have used most types of fowling guns over the years.......single 4, double 8, S/A 10, S/A 12 (Browning, Beretta etc), double SBS 12,....got shut of all the S/A's now....for a variety of reasons but mainly because I couldn't shoot well with em (bar the Browning Gold 3 1/2" S/A 12 that is!) and safety wise...... you can't at a glance check down the barrel for obstructions, and because S/A's don't break so others cannot easily see the gun is empty!........... and annoying wise..... the empties were scattered over a wide area (and when picked up, were often contaminated with mud and salt water and rusted before you got home!......not good for reloading)........ and of course the empty cases are impossible to find in the dark! I currently use a12 x 3 1/2" O/U (and of course the 4 & 8 Bores!) early days with it yet, but the O/U 12 appears to tick most boxes for me............but if all else fails I still have my Midland 3" mag SBS 12 as a fall back...... Oh and the gun is finished in 'Duratouch' infinity camo.....so rust is not an issue! To remove rust (redrust!) I have used cabinet makers wirewool in 0000grade (I think it is?) soaked in paraffin/oil to good effect, without it removing the Blacking....but don't rub too hard/long!! I have collecting the empties sorted! After all done and dusted I just tell the dog "empties" and I don't have to stumble about with a torch any more. 3 in 1 oil is just thin enough when used with the real fine wire wool but I shouldn't use it on coatings only traditional finishes personally. The dog often chomps a case and are useless for re-loading after being in the slutch and saltwater. My ideal 12 ga fowling gun has not yet been made. It might be along the lines of a S/S with easy removable lock so you could rinse it off etc. A synthetic stock (while retaining the balance point) Full rustproof plating under a modern non reflective finish and sling attachments. 3" short and 3 1/2" longer barrels as a set and external removable chokes on both. Today though its a good Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'd be up for one of them Kent. Double trigger for easy choke selection too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Sadly, the black Benelli`s are notorious for rusting. Having said that, I`ve got both an SBE2 and a SuperNova in camo finish and neither has ever suffered from rust anywhere, despite being used in some pretty dire conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 My Benelli SBE is several years old now. Black with no rust. Dropped it out of the boat once so it has been exposed to salt water. But what the hell - it's a fowling gun - as long as it works that's OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'd be up for one of them Kent. Double trigger for easy choke selection too. Of course, only the very best single trigger guns are worth a light IMO anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fib new Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If you're not into s/a guns, the old browning 425 wildfowl would probably a nice gun for the foreshore. Anyone tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think I might persevere with the pump till the season is out and reconsider then. If you add all the votes for break guns together, still not half as popular as semi autos. More thinking to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 always nice to have a 3rd shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 sxs fabarm beta lux 3 1/2 super Magnum SST multi choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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