mr_magicfingers Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ok, I'm a novice shotgun shooter but I can't find a way where the stock doesn't bash my ear defenders when shooting. If I bring the stock to my cheekbone, every time it pushes the defenders up and away which defeats the point of wearing them. I've tried different types and sizes, even my Howard Leight low profile ones are the same. I don't understand how anyone can put a stock to their cheek without the end of the stock hitting the defenders if it's tucked into their shoulder. What am I missing (other than anything I aim at ) How do you all manage this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 i must be pretty lucky as i use howard leights and im fine, occasionally i ightly touch the bottom of them on the stock but other than that i miss it every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Depends I have a set of pelter electronics they're built round the slim ear defender. and use them for shooting with my shotgun without problem. but they are not much cop with my rifle as they touch the stock. It might be worth getting a shotgun coach to check your mounting correctly, But bear in mind not every head is the same shape while your ears are roughly in the middle of the side of your head ear shape varies. I fit my ear defenders so the pad is fairly tight to the bottom of my ear as in the cartilage not the lobe. If all else fails try a set of sonic 2's of maybe some Napier 9's or 10's the first being passive plugs and the other two very low profile defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Try the many assorted ear plugs that are available. I simply don't like, or get on with, normal ear defenders, so have been using ear plugs for years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Try the many assorted ear plugs that are available. I simply don't like, or get on with, normal ear defenders, so have been using ear plugs for years! Me too, I recently invested in a pair of CENS, first impressions are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I did notice this problem when i first got some ear defenders. I just wear them slightly higher than i would wear them usually. I really do mean slightly. They still cover my ears and keeps them protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ok, I'm a novice shotgun shooter but I can't find a way where the stock doesn't bash my ear defenders when shooting. If I bring the stock to my cheekbone, every time it pushes the defenders up and away which defeats the point of wearing them. I've tried different types and sizes, even my Howard Leight low profile ones are the same. I don't understand how anyone can put a stock to their cheek without the end of the stock hitting the defenders if it's tucked into their shoulder. What am I missing (other than anything I aim at ) How do you all manage this? I have the Leights and find no issue... The stock does tend to touch them but not move them. I'd try earplugs to see if it makes you mount the gun differently. You say you're a novice... Are you hitting plenty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Have tried a few can type but for the same reason have gone onto plug type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_magicfingers Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have the Leights and find no issue... The stock does tend to touch them but not move them. I'd try earplugs to see if it makes you mount the gun differently. You say you're a novice... Are you hitting plenty? Still a novice, need to practice more. Bought defenders as wanted to best protect my ears, just finding I don't get on with them. Have my first gun on load and just practicing mounting it every day, finally getting it reliable, put on the defenders and bash them every time. Looks like plugs for me, though looked at prices of electronic ones :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have Napier ear defenders because of this problem. I have Plugz for competition shooting but use the Napiers if I want to be able to chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 See the thread on CENS ear protection on the Guns and Equipment sub forum. There's quite a lot on plugs there. I use both Emtecs and Napiers (as above) as I have the same problem with over ear types as you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Maybe your mount or stance is not quite right. Have you been with an instructor at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_magicfingers Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Had a couple of sessions with an instructor, going back again in the next week or two, though trying to fit in my first stalking trip too. So much to do Might be a mount issue but don't think so, the mount seems right unless the gun is way off fitting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have Napier ear defenders because of this problem. I have Plugz for competition shooting but use the Napiers if I want to be able to chat. I use these too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireboy Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I have Napier ear defenders because of this problem. I have Plugz for competition shooting but use the Napiers if I want to be able to chat. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Maybe your mount or stance is not quite right. Have you been with an instructor at all? Its quite a common problem. If you watch a few shooters, you will see that some have quite a distance between the base of the ear and the gunstock, others virtually no distance. In my own case, if I mount the gun (with no ear defenders), my ear lobe virtually touches the gun stock. I have (over the years) had three fittings and all have confirmed that there is nothing amiss - and indeed all 3 fitted guns have had the same issue. Its just my shape! By the way, I'm a fairly 'normal' shape as well (5ft 9", 11 1/2 stone, medium build) and use a pretty much standard 14 1/2" stock length gun with perhaps a little more cast than average, but otherwise near 'off the shelf'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Viewed from the rear, my head resembles the FA cup. As a result I can not wear 'cans' when shooting. The Napier type are a good stop gap until you can afford a set of moulded ear plugs. My advice, get the Emtech passive type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Still a novice, need to practice more. Bought defenders as wanted to best protect my ears, just finding I don't get on with them. Have my first gun on load and just practicing mounting it every day, finally getting it reliable, put on the defenders and bash them every time. Looks like plugs for me, though looked at prices of electronic ones :OQuite a few of my fellow shooters at our club use ACS sonic valve http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=147 I paid £100 for mine.I think CENS do a similar product , both don't need batteries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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