Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi guys, I have had my shotgun a about a month or so now and love it, However I have noticed while cleaning the barrels that just past the firing chambers the bores are not shiny and reflective like the rest and on close inspection it looks like minor pitting? Looks all rough compared to the silky shiny look of the rest of the barrel. This is on a beretta silver pigeon O/U 12 bore about a year old but with just under 1000 carts through it, does have warranty so not too bothered if pitting just means the gun will be away for a while i suppose. I cant get a picture of it as it is very minor, it is definitely not plastic from wadding, not sure if its a build up of spent powder but I cant shift it, have tried using napier gun cleaner, bisley bore cleaner and No.9 bore cleaner recommended by RFD and still won't budge with, bronze brush, bronze brush rapped in paper towel, really tight napier ultra clean on jag and the same with paper towel! Any other ideas as to what it may be and how to budge it if not will take to RFD this week see what he can do but he did say first time it was spent powder. Thanks in advanced Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 What makes you dismiss it as plastic have you only put fibre through it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I have had plastic wads through it and due to that I know what the plastic looks like in the bores and have been able to remove this with the brush and jag easily enough but what is there at the moment won't budge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDCREST Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Let the bore cleaner work for a while...Put a wet patch down the barrel working all the inside area and leave for about 15 minutes or so to do its stuff...then try scrubbing with the bronze brush...... 009 works well, but it stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I would still put my money on plastic, it can be a pain in the *** to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi If your rfd says its spent powder I assume you bought it from him ask him to show you how to clean it out I'm sure he won't mind You could just be looking at the forcing cone at the end of the chamber sometimes they are cut after chrome to regulate shot patterns Just a thought on your problem Hope you get it sorted All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Try attaching your brush and rod to a cordless drill and giving it a couple of run throughs. Had the same problem with plastic residue in my over and under this seems to do the trick every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I would also put money on it being plasti, have the same issue with mine. Its clean but still a very slight show, been like it for years thats probably why i miss the targets then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi If your rfd says its spent powder I assume you bought it from him ask him to show you how to clean it out I'm sure he won't mind You could just be looking at the forcing cone at the end of the chamber sometimes they are cut after chrome to regulate shot patterns Just a thought on your problem Hope you get it sorted All the best Of I Believe that this is on the forcing cones just couldn't think of the word at the time, what is this regarding them being cut after chrome that could explain why they don't shine the same as the rest of the barrel? thanks for all the help and advice, will try leaving a bit longer to work its way in and the drill method. Thanks again Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I would also put money on it being plasti, have the same issue with mine. Its clean but still a very slight show, been like it for years thats probably why i miss the targets then. Im pretty sure its not plastic, I found that allot easier to remove, plastic is more in streaks or blobs when I have had it not like this. I will try again to get some pics for you but don't think it will show. ATB Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Don't sweat it's normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 You could get a very aggressive type of brush called a Turks head, which has steel bristles. Not sure if you can still get them, but will shift almost anything, but not to be used regularly. I have one I inherited, but never used it to date myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi Some guns are regulated after chrome done it can remove the shiney surface on the forcing cones and make them harder to clean but they shoot better patterns its not a problem and I'm sure a expert will advise you far better than I can Keep on with the cleaning All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ok thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) What you need is a chamber brush , a good quality one will have your bores spotless . I had the same problem with my Maxus and i find my B725 does it to , for some reason i never had this problem with my 525 ? Edited February 9, 2014 by alastair0903 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendrover90 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Get ya self some hoppes no9 semi auto fluid soak a bit of kitchen roll with it push it through giving the barrel a good coating leave it for an hour then attach a bronze brush to a drill and give it a whizz Guarantee it will be mirror like I learnt this from putting thousands of plas wads through my auto and not much else would shift it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli383 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ok will give it a go thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I get it my guns now and again, it's quite easy to remove I'm betting it's some sort of plastic residue. But anyway no need for different types of bore cleaners, just get some very fine wire wool and wrap some around the split jag or even and old bronze brush give it a shufty up and down the bores and that should do the trick If that doesn't work .....sell your gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affinity121 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Had exactly the same thing happen with my browning 725. It was a mixture of lead and plastic in the forcing cone. It actually looked like the chrome lining was coming off. A good scrubbing and it came off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blasterjudd Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 It will come off i once had same on my beretta just use a hard steel helical brush on your rod and use some bore cleaner then scrub until clean ! Job done +1 for plastic wad marking and build up in the barrel chamber end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot.ontheroad Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 With plastic wads this happens toe withy 12g B725 but never with my 20g cynergy. No idea why. Must be about angles and finish. Oh, and i forgot to say, it comes off if you persevere with the brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Check out the videos on this thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/253885-video-stripping-down-and-cleaning-a-686 The videos are quite verbose, but will get your barrels CLEAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Try attaching your brush and rod to a cordless drill and giving it a couple of run throughs. Had the same problem with plastic residue in my over and under this seems to do the trick every time. This is how I remove plastic residue. Good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Try a Payne brush through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev56 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I had this problem in the past, i tried several different cleaners etc, and the one i now use all the time is ' Eds red' as per video. use a bit of that let it soak brush it out, the acetone dissolves any plastic. Great stuff, i made a couple of gallons of it a few years ago and it will prob last another ten years at least. Many many times cheaper than shop bought 'named stuff ' and in my opinion better. If it's really, really stubborn use a brush in a battery drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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