steyrman Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 As titled went out yesterday to zero the WMR took a mixed assortment of ammo Hornady.Remington.CCI and Federal found Hornady to be the best of the bunch 50yds tack driving 100yds 2" group 150 yds shotgun pattern am i expecting too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 its not built for high level accuracy but it is a bit windy here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I was out with my sako wmr on thursday, i find it bullit on bullit out to 60 meters then it starts to open up more and more, was doing a 4inch group at 100 but there was a really high cross wind.. i only use mine out to 70ish meters if i can help it.. i find it a belting round on foxes out to that distance, its just a shame its so noisy.. what mod do you have on yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I can't remember getting tack driving accuracy from mine to be honest, but certainly accurate enough to do the job with CCI 40 grn Maxi mag's. It's not known for its flat shooting, but is known for being a hard hitting round. The gun was brand new and one of the first manufactured for the round back then, which was a M77 Ruger; a lovely gun and I had many a happy outing with it. I did try some of the lighter loads but my gun wouldn't group at all with them. Edited to add my gun was unmoderated. Edited March 30, 2014 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I was out with my sako wmr on thursday, i find it bullit on bullit out to 60 meters then it starts to open up more and more, was doing a 4inch group at 100 but there was a really high cross wind.. i only use mine out to 70ish meters if i can help it.. i find it a belting round on foxes out to that distance, its just a shame its so noisy.. what mod do you have on yours? It is not thread cut to take a mod it has the heavy barrel not sure i want to moderate it to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I have never owned or fired .22wmr but your post encouraged me to read up a bit about that calibre. One statement from Chuck Hawkes: " I used to have a rather accurate Mossberg bolt action varmint rifle that would consistently shoot into about 1.5" at 100 yards if I did my part. That is as accurate as any .22 WMR rifle I have ever tested." Maybe that helps a bit. Personally I will stick to my 14" barrel Anschutz .17hmr which shoots 1" or better groups at 100 yards on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 It is not thread cut to take a mod it has the heavy barrel not sure i want to moderate it to be honest Yea it's screw cut and I have a sac moderator on it but as much as I like it I think il put the 17hmr barrel on it with the ATEC whisper mod.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 i have had 17hmr's in the past just recently sold a t-bolt just thought the harder hitting WMR would be better ah well you live and learn thanks for the replies guys S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonhunter Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) nothing wrong with the accuarcy of my cz wmr or of my step fathers marlin wmr both can get 1inch groups and under at 100 yards all day long both using hornady 30g v-max. Edited March 30, 2014 by Devonhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 What rifle is it bud? Should shoot better than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Anschutz mk 10 target rifle mate which has been drilled and tapped to take a scope. The fact that it is a Target rifle made me think that it should shoot better than it does on saying that i have only been out once with it so will have some more trigger time this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I have never got my WMR's quite as accurate as my HMR, and both my WMR favoured different ammo. My latest will happily deliver Hornady 30g V-Max to under 1", probably about 1/4" worse than my HMR. That's as good as they get in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 The wind isn't your friend. A 40 gr bullet from a WMR isn't going very fast. Even a light wind (10 mph) has nearly 3" of drift at 100 yards. A variable wind between 5 and 15 mph combined with a 1" accuracy level cartridge would account for those groups. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 If the round is the 30gr Hornady, I have this on the Sierra suite which indicates that a 10mph cross wind will throw you (in round figures) 6" at 100 and 14 at 150 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thanks again for all the replies lads. As it happens the ammo i used is the 30gr Hornady v-max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 also concider it might be mounts and or scope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) you cant judge the accuracy of round or rifle with "high cross winds" or "blustery" conditions and to those that don't think its an "accurate cartridge" I have a sako quad WMR, cheap Walther scope, shoot Remington PMR 33gr Accutip 3 shots to check zero off the roof of my car using the sling as a bag 2 shots to see POI, adjusted scope and one to check this was at 90-95 yds at night, using a torch to light the target! Edited March 31, 2014 by Bewsher500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Nothing wrong with that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 The wind isn't your friend. A 40 gr bullet from a WMR isn't going very fast. Even a light wind (10 mph) has nearly 3" of drift at 100 yards. A variable wind between 5 and 15 mph combined with a 1" accuracy level cartridge would account for those groups. thanks rick Very dependant on bullet choice but only 3" is certainly very good indeed in a FV 10mph, generally accepted as a worse choice on winds than an LR 40 grn sub. Watch those ballistic apps etc when working with such rifles as WMR many are a wee bit off in their calcs to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 If the round is the 30gr Hornady, I have this on the Sierra suite which indicates that a 10mph cross wind will throw you (in round figures) 6" at 100 and 14 at 150 yards. That's more like it ! Remember sub 5mph gusting is very hard to call correctly and will be up to 3" . Correcting to FV 5mph will potentially give up to 6" lateral spread if you don't get the shot release correct as winds are never constant (like waves on a beach) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Its fine...just the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 The cz I had was OK with 40g CCI but with 30 and 33g it was 3" groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Very dependant on bullet choice but only 3" is certainly very good indeed in a FV 10mph, generally accepted as a worse choice on winds than an LR 40 grn sub. Watch those ballistic apps etc when working with such rifles as WMR many are a wee bit off in their calcs to say the least I used the 40 gr vmax at 2000 fps since the 40 gr wmr bullet wasn't there. Should be fairly close, certainly close enough to diagnose the problem. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) you cant judge the accuracy of round or rifle with "high cross winds" or "blustery" conditions and to those that don't think its an "accurate cartridge" I have a sako quad WMR, cheap Walther scope, shoot Remington PMR 33gr Accutip 3 shots to check zero off the roof of my car using the sling as a bag 2 shots to see POI, adjusted scope and one to check this was at 90-95 yds at night, using a torch to light the target! What said you never pulled the last shot you should always check with at least 2 shots Deershooter Edited March 31, 2014 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hi OP Have you tried a lighter round at the same ranges ? Had a similar problem a few years ago found lighter round was more accurate Pulled a few heads and found there was same amount of powder in both loads Then substituted paper for ply targets and discovered heavier heads were tumbling lighter heads seemed to stabilise better Sorry cant help you more changed gun for a 17 Anyway just a thought All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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