muncher Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just to inform you all. Following the last FWA committee meeting on the 18/11/14 we have had to expell one member for life and reprimand 2 more. As you can tell the Club takes transgressions of the rules very seriously, we will back our wardens one hundred percent in these matters. They are charged with upholding our club rules and the conduct of our members in order to protect our lease. Therefore, ensureing the preservation of wildfowling for our future generations. Please take NOTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 No names no pack drill, but what did he/they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely this is a case for the FWA and not appropriate for an open forum. If you want to describe an incident at a marsh that resulted in someone being disciplined so we can learn from it fair enough, but the post as it is is pointless. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely this is a case for the FWA and not appropriate for an open forum. If you want to describe an incident at a marsh that resulted in someone being disciplined so we can learn from it fair enough, but the post as it is is pointless. IMHO Surely it serves as a warning to other members and just letting members know, if not they will not see about it untill the next newsletter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely it serves as a warning to other members and just letting members know, if not they will not see about it untill the next newsletter If the message is that important, I would have sent an email to each member in the club and kept it in house. 90%+ these days have email. Then you know they have been told. But in fairness to the post it is titled. 'Fenland Wildfowlers members' so I guess it hasn't done any harm. I would have just done it differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I dont see the need for details , it does give other FWA members the heads up that they are being watched and if they do not behave in the correct manner they will suffer the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just to inform you all. Following the last FWA committee meeting on the 18/11/14 we have had to expell one member for life and reprimand 2 more. As you can tell the Club takes transgressions of the rules very seriously, we will back our wardens one hundred percent in these matters. They are charged with upholding our club rules and the conduct of our members in order to protect our lease. Therefore, ensureing the preservation of wildfowling for our future generations. Please take NOTE. this is a FWA matter and such has been handled by the committee and would have thought that this post has no place on this forum and should be removed (imo) as FWD members will most likely be informed of the outcome in their newsletter (again this should only be relevant to FWA members) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 This also serves as a notice to any potential guests on the marsh or any folk wishing to join the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I don't really have an opinion on whether this post should be on here or not but obviously fenland wildfowlers have had to address something quite serious and I give credit to the club for backing up their wardens. I do have a question that jules could answer,do you have appointed wardens or are all full members accredited as wardens after a period of time as members. What I would like to see put in place was some sort of black list where people who have been banned from a club are named so that if they apply to join another club they can be checked out. If the person/guilty are already a member of several clubs, which many people are, the other clubs could then confer and make their own decisions. To my knowledge their is no such scheme in place but their should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There may be nothing official, but I'm sure word gets about between senior club officials. I know it did in Essex. I don't really have an opinion on whether this post should be on here or not but obviously fenland wildfowlers have had to address something quite serious and I give credit to the club for backing up their wardens. I do have a question that jules could answer,do you have appointed wardens or are all full members accredited as wardens after a period of time as members.What I would like to see put in place was some sort of black list where people who have been banned from a club are named so that if they apply to join another club they can be checked out. If the person/guilty are already a member of several clubs, which many people are, the other clubs could then confer and make their own decisions. To my knowledge their is no such scheme in place but their should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I know the jungles drums beat but in some cases either get missed or distorted. Sometimes we need to do something solid to stop this sort of thing happening before we lose what we have. We all know we have to watch our backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Nothing wrong with the post....There are rules and they should be followed, be warned if you break them the club will take action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If the message is that important, I would have sent an email to each member in the club and kept it in house. 90%+ these days have email. Then you know they have been told. But in fairness to the post it is titled. 'Fenland Wildfowlers members' so I guess it hasn't done any harm. I would have just done it differently. There are 400 members of FWA and some will not give there email address and I for one am not putting them all in my computer .to be honest I have tried all means to try and make members behave I have been on the marsh and the car parks and tried gentle talks to behave, watch your range etc but my phone at times just goes mad with complaints ,moans ,my wife wants to smash my phone as we often get no peace .So yes I might have tried a different tact but i'm tired of this ,for me prevention and education is better than a cure.It is not my intention to offend just let people know we are acting and watching, after a lot of mud has been slung at FWA on this forum and others forums about behaviour . I don't really have an opinion on whether this post should be on here or not but obviously fenland wildfowlers have had to address something quite serious and I give credit to the club for backing up their wardens. I do have a question that jules could answer,do you have appointed wardens or are all full members accredited as wardens after a period of time as members. What I would like to see put in place was some sort of black list where people who have been banned from a club are named so that if they apply to join another club they can be checked out. If the person/guilty are already a member of several clubs, which many people are, the other clubs could then confer and make their own decisions. To my knowledge their is no such scheme in place but their should be. Firstly every full member has the rite to ask for cards ,but appointed wardens are all committee members at this time, secondly the wash joint council of which i'm a member will all get a letter with the details of the individual who was banned to explain why. The rules broken are standard rules on every Wash club as far as I know . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 must add that on the whole the conduct of 99% of our members is very high .If the moderators think that this post is inappropriate then please delete this thread. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 this is a FWA matter and such has been handled by the committee and would have thought that this post has no place on this forum and should be removed (imo) as FWD members will most likely be informed of the outcome in their newsletter (again this should only be relevant to FWA members) Maybe Saltings ,but we have tried with the news letters Facebook, wardens etc. and the message that club rules must be followed for the good of the club ,and to be honest FWA doesn't have many. We want to reach as many people who use our club ,guest and members to adhere to the club rules, So we all have a sport in the future. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Muncher, I wasn't referring to the actions the FWA took from a disciplinary point of view. That is completly none of my business. I was only referring to the fact that you had used an open forum, pigeon watch as a vehicle for getting a message to readers which was solely aimed at FWA members and really not relevant to anyone else. If all clubs used this forum to get their messages over to only their own members I'm sure many would be quite hacked off. But as I said no harm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Muncher, I wasn't referring to the actions the FWA took from a disciplinary point of view. That is completly none of my business. I was only referring to the fact that you had used an open forum, pigeon watch as a vehicle for getting a message to readers which was solely aimed at FWA members and really not relevant to anyone else. If all clubs used this forum to get their messages over to only their own members I'm sure many would be quite hacked off. But as I said no harm done. Yes you are correct and for that i,m sorry ,like I put if the mods think this is not appropriate then please delete it. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 You have certainly made everyone curious to what happened. Well hope it's all sorted now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 What happened was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 So it is you Motty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I am sorry , I let myself down , I did not realise that stripping off all my clothes and running around starkers in the mud shouting "come on" after shooting my first foreshore pinks was against the rules , it will not happen again , well not unless I shoot a pintail drake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 What happened was..... Ah yes motty, that was what i thought happened as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 heard a few stories about this over the weekend,nice to know which are true and which are bull ****. craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely you should take a more realistic view on damaging sea defences. Surely Big Matt didn't mean to remove all the mud from your club marshes intentionally? if that is the case then he will be banned from other clubs too. Its not like he filled his waders and pockets with mud, he plastered it all over himself for all to see and even had photo's taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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