Carman06 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I have searched but cannot find it again. I'm sure I read somewhere there is a form you can send your GP outlining exactly what they can and cannot divulge to anyone including the Firearms licensing department. Can anybody help me with where to find it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Never heard of this myself.Also why would you want to hold information back also as you are asking to be able to hold firearms I doubt you would be able to as a matter of public safety etc.atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcombehall Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Never heard of this form and if there was one you would think if someone wanted to hide something from the firearms licensing authority would you want them holding any firearms certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Sounds a little dodgy to me too! I really can't see a Doctor agreeing to hide something that might prove your unsuitability to hold weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 As far as I'm aware there is no such form. Your signature on your application means you have truthfully completed the form and given your licensing authority permission to contact your GP with reference to matters relevant to your suitability to hold firearms. Your licensing authority doesn't trawl through your medical history looking at all matter of personal details; they ask your GP if there is anything he/she is aware of that would affect your suitability to hold firearms. They aren't going to made aware of the fact you may have once been admitted to hospital having 'accidentally' got your todger stuck up the Henry hoover inlet. Nothng to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Blimey Scully, how long ago was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'd rather not talk about it if you don't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4X Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Confidentiality is a read issue Have a look on this website http://medconfidential.org Many GPs are very concerned about the issues. Forms to opt out of GP's sharing info can be download here: https://medconfidential.org/for-patients/formfix/ I do not think it applies to what your GP can or cannot pass on to firearms department though? Edited January 20, 2015 by M4X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't have an issue with anything they may ask. I just remember seeing a link to a template I think it said a basc one and thought I will read that later to see what it was on about but can't find it now. I think it was on a topic where I guy had surgery in hospital or something and someone posted the link. Just curious really. I have not seen my doctor since I registered 2 1/2 years ago after leaving the MOB. Had to ask wife where I was registered as I can't remember. My wife reckons there is an issue with the admin staff at this surgery thinking they are medically trained and asking inappropriate questions and giving out inappropiate information. (My wife is a nurse and comments from experience not hearsay). Honestly nothing to hide just wish I had read the link when I saw it as its bugging me now what it was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yes I have also heard that you can restrict what your GP shares (if anything) but in these days of networked computerised records its being shared to some degree. Also doubt it would apply to a firearms enquiry but did not some one on here say all your quack has to say is "I can see no reason why Mr X should not be issued with a cert" Maybe Kyska will be along to confirm it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbietherimmer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 no offence but if someone has mental health issues then they should not have access to a gun. Obviously some people with minor issues will lose out but if it prevents 1 mentalist from going on a rampage then its worth it. As for the doctors notes-they have a duty of care - so will reveal all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about all will be fine colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The question of doctors giving medical details to the police is a very grey area one of the surgeries in our area has a policy of no forms of any kind to do with firearms will be completed.So no duty of care there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 no offence but if someone has mental health issues then they should not have access to a gun. Obviously some people with minor issues will lose out but if it prevents 1 mentalist from going on a rampage then its worth it. That's a very broad brush, what type of mental issues had you in mind. Follow your advice and there would be now one with firearms. Anxiety and panic attacks Bipolar disorder Eating problems Loneliness Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) Panic attacks Phobia Seasonal affective disorder Self-esteem Sleep problems Stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 That's a very broad brush, what type of mental issues had you in mind. Follow your advice and there would be now one with firearms. Anxiety and panic attacks Bipolar disorder Eating problems Loneliness Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) Panic attacks Phobia Seasonal affective disorder Self-esteem Sleep problems Stress Could also be extended to include marriage and having children - sometimes I think I must have been mad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 no offence but if someone has mental health issues then they should not have access to a gun. Obviously some people with minor issues will lose out but if it prevents 1 mentalist from going on a rampage then its worth it. As for the doctors notes-they have a duty of care - so will reveal all. So are you saying that as i have had PTSD i should not be allowed to hold an FAC and SGC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Hmmm are we sure this isn't something to ensure the doctor only passes medical info and not a personal opinion, which in the case of an anti doc could be a bad thing Edited January 22, 2015 by Paul223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 My doctor will hand anything over for cash,when I asked the receptionist about it she said Durham used to pay us £30 for information.Oh I said so why Is doctor xxxxxxx asking me to pay £50? No answer just refusal to accept the form until £50 crossed hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 My doctor will hand anything over for cash,when I asked the receptionist about it she said Durham used to pay us £30 for information.Oh I said so why Is doctor xxxxxxx asking me to pay £50? No answer just refusal to accept the form until £50 crossed hands. There is always the option of not paying, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 There is always the option of not paying, of course.Yep I did,and Durham comment was,"well another one to the back of the que" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yep I did,and Durham comment was,"well another one to the back of the que" Did you ask if you could have that in writing? Did you contact your shooting organisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 GP entitled to charge for doing letter, why wouldn't he?? its not covered in his contract. Most will charge for this item of service or just refuse to give an opinion which they are also entitled to do. If they do write that you are fit to hold a FAC they are exposing themselves to risk. You wouldn't expect to get a letter from a solicitor to write a letter for free . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Durham have BASC running scared,my renewal went in about 25th of November,it expires about 25/03/15.I bet I don't see it this side of that date.I have spoken to BASC recently when I had 2 unanounced visits in one day.Well the 1st was the 2nd was when they came back to try and revoke my and my sons licences and remove guns.All because my son has a friend who has a friend who is a bit of a scaly.My son who is 15 had to prove he had no direct friend ship with this scally,Fortunatly they left satisfied, I called BASC for advise after the 1st visit as they told me the would be back to interview my son and advised me to have 2xSGC/2xFAC certs and keys to cabinets available.BASC,s advise was they can revoke under association accept it. Edited January 22, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I can't comment on your sons associates I'm afraid, which has no relevance to a GP's report, but as far as dealing with Durham licensing and medical reports, you're with the wrong association. Your licensing authority cannot, under any circumstances, insist an applicant pays for a GP's report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I can't comment on your sons associates I'm afraid, which has no relevance to a GP's report, but as far as dealing with Durham licensing and medical reports, you're with the wrong association. Your licensing authority cannot, under any circumstances, insist an applicant pays for a GP's report. I have had this conversation with Dyfed Powys,and they are happy to pay for a Doctors report and most of the time don't contact your doctor if they have no reason,but if you have put something in your medical history they will ask you to obtain the doctors report,and in fairness they have been true to their word, when i had a malicious accusation levelled against me they paid for a doctors report, on renewal i had to declare that in the past i had PTSD and they asked me to provide the doctors report, i did speak to basc but they wanted me to refuse and wait for the bun fight and then take it all the way if needed,this was when i spoke to the firearms dept and sorted it out and got the above explanation,everyone came away satisfied and i also got granted .223,sometimes the path of least resistance is the way to go,i can say i have a good relationship with my firearms dept and they are willing to listen and give advice anytime,talking things through logically is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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