Penelope Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 The cowardly terrorist class warriors that they are. Disgusting.Am I missing something though, the article mentioned a drag hunt. Why would anti-hunt protestors be at a drag hunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 "I honest hold the believe that I was in danger for my safety or life". Very interesting post there Redgum. You aren't allowed to defend yourself without fear of losing your firearms licence... that's surely wrong and dangerous. It's also dangerous in case you get overrun by a group of violent anti's who may use your own weapon against you, or steal it... How far in the court of law are you allowed to go to defend yourself against a group attack like this? I don't feel that there is much advice in the way of stopping it, especially if the police aren't in a rush to head over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 what happened to that hunt master needs to be the turning point for a law to be passed against sabs being masked. i would put money on the fact that if they had to unmask, they would back off to a near non existance. they are, in the closest sense, real life 'keyboard warriors'. its as easy to be rude, obnoxious and intimidating behind a mask as it is behind a keyboard. remove the mask/keyboard and you see them for what they truly are. it amazes me that they havent realized that 90% of the reason they are not taken seriously is BECAUSE they cover up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff- Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 it amazes me that they havent realized that 90% of the reason they are not taken seriously is BECAUSE they cover up. ^^^This^^^ Exactly, if they feel so strongly about their cause why feel the need to hide behind a mask...........cowardly morons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 from what i have read and seen, they (the SABS) cover up for fear or retribution from the hunters. one quote said "we cover our faces so that they (the hunters) cant recognise us and come looking for us. we dont want them coming to our homes and threatening our families and children or damaging our cars or property" so basically... they dont want the hunters doing to them, what they do to the hunters. please dont get me wrong, i'm not a fan of hunting. not my cup of tea at all tbh, but then again, neither is ferreting. both outdated in my opinion. i just depsise those that use violence and double negatived approaches to try and stop it because they dont like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 What's their point in sabotaging a drag hunt? the mind boggles What else is there to do when on benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 No mention of it on the leagues website for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Also for those on Facebook, check out Sabinder's Sab news And if your into satire comedy West Wessex hunt sabs Daft question but it reads like he is pro hunting ? just not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Just had a look at the hunt sab association web site and its all tall tales of how they keep being abused and attacked by hunters.theres one from 04 about how a sab was beaten with an iron bar and trampled by a horse!pity it didnt ride over them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Daft question but it reads like he is pro hunting ? just not sure? Yeah it's a pee take, read and laugh! Some of the west Wessex will have you in fits of laughter..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 use the anti terorist laws against them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Disgusting. Am I missing something though, the article mentioned a drag hunt. Why would anti-hunt protestors be at a drag hunt? i can only imagine its like the goverment (and anti smokers) who, unhappy that smokers have found an alternative from fags in the shape of e-cigs (etc), are trying their hardest to get those banned also, out of interest, when these people get their own way and (using the above cigs example) everyone falls into line and give em up - who/what will they start on then some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Sabs and terrorists are the only people to hide there faces why because they are gutless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 There was a case reported today where a hunt was in court to face charges brought by a group of anti-hunting people under the ban. It was thrown out on the first day, as the 'evidence video', 'didnt work' and the stills were of another hunt. A supposed picture of a fox being maimed and thrown down a hill was inadmissible as the 'fox' was rock. Can you believe that - there are lies damned lies and hunt saboteurs truth. I would give them a long stretch for perverting the course of justice, also lying on oath, a few years because their parents didnt know each other and then make them wear a ball and chain for every meeting of the same hunt for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 use the anti terorist laws against them.... Absolutely right, these sab organisations should be banned for inciting terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 There was a case reported today where a hunt was in court to face charges brought by a group of anti-hunting people under the ban. It was thrown out on the first day, as the 'evidence video', 'didnt work' and the stills were of another hunt. A supposed picture of a fox being maimed and thrown down a hill was inadmissible as the 'fox' was rock. Can you believe that - there are lies damned lies and hunt saboteurs truth. I would give them a long stretch for perverting the course of justice, also lying on oath, a few years because their parents didnt know each other and then make them wear a ball and chain for every meeting of the same hunt for a year. In our local rag there are often claims by antis that all manner of wrong doing has been committed by Patterdale, Blencathra hunts etc, and are very critical of the police for not doing more, but the police always respond by stating that they can only investigate claims and then act upon evidence upholding those claims; evidence of which is either inadmissable or doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 In our local rag there are often claims by antis that all manner of wrong doing has been committed by Patterdale, Blencathra hunts etc, and are very critical of the police for not doing more, but the police always respond by stating that they can only investigate claims and then act upon evidence upholding those claims; evidence of which is either inadmissable or doesn't exist.I take your point but when does a lack of information become harrassment, or wasting police/court time? What about the blackening of reputation of hunt members etc? The balance seems to be in favour of the wrongdoers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I have to say I think I would defend myself if I was attacked like the huntsman was, I think GO PRO cameras would be ideal for the hunters, I certainly would have one on me if I chose to hunt, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Very interesting post there Redgum. You aren't allowed to defend yourself without fear of losing your firearms licence... that's surely wrong and dangerous. It's also dangerous in case you get overrun by a group of violent anti's who may use your own weapon against you, or steal it... How far in the court of law are you allowed to go to defend yourself against a group attack like this? I don't feel that there is much advice in the way of stopping it, especially if the police aren't in a rush to head over. Police advice to rifle men on the cull was to make your weapon safe by removing the bolt but on no account retaliate, just walk away. Police need to realise that by walking away your a perfect and unprotected target for a piece of steel bar on a chain swung by a masked criminal in a dark field in the middle of know where. Should you take action and give the attacker a right holy kicking you can guarantee that some other hooded moran will be filming away with their phone. The main man in charge of the Gloucestershire policing of the cull was asked why things are just a tad one sided, the reply was ' a certain amount of aggressive behaviour is tolerated when people are protesting'. We don't have much of a chance do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I take your point but when does a lack of information become harrassment, or wasting police/court time? What about the blackening of reputation of hunt members etc? The balance seems to be in favour of the wrongdoers ! Good points. Personally I think if people are going about their lawful business then any sort of physical obstruction in their path is harassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 where do the shooting organisations stand on this, will they or do they bring prosecutions if someone is attacked or is it just a police matter? we see prosecutions by various animal welfare groups etc etc, im kind of just thinking out loud here so please don't shoot me down so to speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I like the quote from the police that "the attack was unacceptable", ye gods, who teaches the Police these days. It used to be GBH and a 3-5 year stretch at HMP. This makes it sound a trifling issue - like throwing eggs, which the Rt Hon Lord Prescott of quick meaningless speech and adultery, nearly got someone hung for Assuming that is, that the 'quote' is accurate Most Police quotes come from the 'Press Office' which is usually staffed by Civilian Staff with a reporting background. It may come from the mouth of the uniformed puppet who appears in front of the press, but they are only reading from a well rehearsed script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 The Sabs will attack a 'drag hunt' because they believe that if, during the hounds following the 'drag scent', happen upon a fox, then a fox hunt will ensue. They are also of the opinion that drag hunting is just a front for foxhunting. There is no doubt in my mind that the Sabs behaviour is Aggravated Tresspass. An Offence created, I believe, to stop anti shooting demonstrations on grouse moors. The wording, and I am working from memory here, is "Tresspass on land with the intention to disrupt or stop any legal activty taking place there". It was introduced on the back of the 'Right to Roam Act. Of course this can be applied to ANY legal activity, including drag hunting. In this incident it has gone much further and a serious assault has been committed, but had the Aggravated Tresspass laws been enforced when the Offenders first arrived, it could have been avoided. I am in the middle of a house move and all of my books are packed so I am unable to quote Act and Section of Agg. Tresspass, but I am sure that I will be corrected, if I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Like in Parliament Square then??? Police advice to rifle men on the cull was to make your weapon safe by removing the bolt but on no account retaliate, just walk away. Police need to realise that by walking away your a perfect and unprotected target for a piece of steel bar on a chain swung by a masked criminal in a dark field in the middle of know where. Should you take action and give the attacker a right holy kicking you can guarantee that some other hooded moran will be filming away with their phone. The main man in charge of the Gloucestershire policing of the cull was asked why things are just a tad one sided, the reply was ' a certain amount of aggressive behaviour is tolerated when people are protesting'. We don't have much of a chance do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 It's mob mentality. when one of the unwashed is confronted one on one the spirit dissolves. when the mask is removed and they don't have the adrenaline pumping and aren't backed up by their buddies they tend to soil themselves. then they go home and feed their cat, meat. Odd balls each and every one. I've stood my ground against the mob and met like with like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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