spanj Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 SO back in the closet,how about making it a criminal offence and jailing them as well or flogging, or how about sending them to the colonies. Sorry that was the past wasn't it ,most people are in 2015 not 1815. I dont mean this to sound offensive but I have to ask the question if you were as tolerant of homosexuality before your son came out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Confucius say "The worst bigot of all is the man who presumes to tell another man what he should say or think." Well he didn't, but he should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Changing people’s perception of long standing taboos takes many generations to gain general acceptance and not just legislation passed by what may be considered socially progressive governments, for instance how would it be received by the nation or indeed this forum if incest was to be legalised and ‘brother/sister, sister/sister, brother/brother or any combination including divorced parents marrying their offspring became the accepted norm? In fact I am not sure if sister/sister, brother/brother is now not already within the law! Why stop there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I dont mean this to sound offensive but I have to ask the question if you were as tolerant of homosexuality before your son came out ? I have never had a problem with someone who is gay even before my Son told me.It is just a persons sexuality,we can't all be the same,just like some like big boobs or a bit of bondage everyone is different,and if anyone has hang ups about sex and sexuality then that is their problem,it is something that matters not to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Changing people’s perception of long standing taboos takes many generations to gain general acceptance and not just legislation passed by what may be considered socially progressive governments, for instance how would it be received by the nation or indeed this forum if incest was to be legalised and ‘brother/sister, sister/sister, brother/brother or any combination including divorced parents marrying their offspring became the accepted norm? In fact I am not sure if sister/sister, brother/brother is now not already within the law! Why stop there?? Incest can lead to children being born with deformities that is why it is taboo and against the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 So by tolerating intolerance we become intolerant..... Ive had a drink so I'm biting. No, we normalise intolerance. , talk about spin to twist your own mantra, on this site we have had recently seen the intonation that if you want to vote for an alternative party you are a brown shirt, if you dont want to see unfettered unneeded immigration you are a racist, and now if you genuinely find the issue of teaching kids a subject that I personally feel they dont need at such an early age I am an out of touch uncivilised dinosaur, I dont have a mantra or soapbox, just an opinion and I've never called you or anyone a racist and you are welcome to your opinion, even if it is unremittingly contrary, negative and borderline paranoid. And then the thread gets hijacked to in order to give an insidious push to normalise a trait which to me personally I find offensive, and my feelings on it apparently liken me to a Nazi or a south American despot? Hijacked? Is that what you really think? Posting a point of view that differs from your is not a hijack. And I said southern states of America, meaning racial segregation. Good stuff keep it up. Hello sailor. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 So by tolerating intolerance we become intolerant..... Ive had a drink so I'm biting. No, we normalise intolerance. , talk about spin to twist your own mantra, on this site we have had recently seen the intonation that if you want to vote for an alternative party you are a brown shirt, if you dont want to see unfettered unneeded immigration you are a racist, and now if you genuinely find the issue of teaching kids a subject that I personally feel they dont need at such an early age I am an out of touch uncivilised dinosaur, I dont have a mantra or soapbox, just an opinion and I've never called you or anyone a racist and you are welcome to your opinion, even if it is unremittingly contrary, negative and borderline paranoid. And then the thread gets hijacked to in order to give an insidious push to normalise a trait which to me personally I find offensive, and my feelings on it apparently liken me to a Nazi or a south American despot? Hijacked? Is that what you really think? Posting a point of view that differs from your is not a hijack. And I said southern states of America, meaning racial segregation. Good stuff keep it up. Hello sailor. KW I'm glad you said you had been on the drink otherwise I would have thought you had had a drink before posting. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Incest can lead to children being born with deformities that is why it is taboo and against the law If it was left to homosexuals we would be a dying race and there would be no children . Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 If it was left to homosexuals we would be a dying race and there would be no children . Harnser Don't be scared darling,come on over to the dark side,you know you want to sweetie, you know they say that he who complains loudest........................squeal little piggy squeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Don't be scared darling,come on over to the dark side,you know you want to sweetie, you know they say that he who complains loudest........................squeal little piggy squeal Why is it that homosexuals believe that any body who has an opinion that do not agree with what they think ,has latent homosexual tendencies. ? I don't care what consenting adults do to each other behind closed doors ,that's their private business,heterosexual or homosexual . I do have an opinion of homosexuality,as do you and our opinions differ . We really should try and be adult about it and get on with what we think we need to do and not write silly offensive posts on this forum . Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 ok can I ask WHY with male gays there is a giver and a taker and also why with lezbefriends there is always one woman trying to grow a tash , just curious as to why one tries to be the opposite sex to what they really are,, also I think bi sexuals are just greedy ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Why is it that homosexuals believe that any body who has an opinion that do not agree with what they think ,has latent homosexual tendencies. ? I don't care what consenting adults do to each other behind closed doors ,that's their private business,heterosexual or homosexual . I do have an opinion of homosexuality,as do you and our opinions differ . We really should try and be adult about it and get on with what we think we need to do and not write silly offensive posts on this forum . Harnser And some of us should learn to lighten up and see a joke post for what it is sweetie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 The only person on here who thinks you might be a bigot seems to be you an expected not impartial reply as expected. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Agree to disagree, accept that someone else has a different point of view and don't think you can change it and drop the personal insults. Three tips on how not to get a thread closed, or posts removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 an expected not impartial reply as expected. KW How was that "not impartial"? You made a statement and in making that statement suggested you are a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 ok can I ask WHY with male gays there is a giver and a taker and also why with lezbefriends there is always one woman trying to grow a tash , just curious as to why one tries to be the opposite sex to what they really are,, also I think bi sexuals are just greedy ******** you seem very well informed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 you seem very well informed That's what they're all like though. I saw it on telly once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Incest can lead to children being born with deformities that is why it is taboo and against the law With the greatest respect, so can any pregnancy incestuous or not, depends what the genes decide, (other factors aside) and although foetal abnormality may be expected to be more prevalent in an incestuous pregnancy it is most certainly not limited to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 With the greatest respect, so can any pregnancy incestuous or not, depends what the genes decide, (other factors aside) and although foetal abnormality may be expected to be more prevalent in an incestuous pregnancy it is most certainly not limited to them. You are correct ,that is why you will see I said "incest CAN lead". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 If it was left to homosexuals we would be a dying race and there would be no children . Harnser Isn't that why they invented turkey basters?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) How strange the usual PW suspects who castigate certain religious groups actually share their beliefs in terms of homophobia and intolerance,perhaps they would be more at home in Syria, not to mention they also have fairly liberal gun laws Edited February 22, 2015 by chrisjh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 So is sex education in primary schools ok as long as they don't learn about same sex relationships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 You are correct ,that is why you will see I said "incest CAN lead". It is the CAN that I am on about, i.e. the ‘CAN of WORMS’ that is the moral/social acceptancy/or not of widespread human behavioural traits that have been legislated against in the past and have recently been reformed, where do you stop because to many, as in the example of incest it is not the reproductive consequence of the relationship that is most abhorrent it is the incestuous act itself that causes the revulsion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 It is the CAN that I am on about, i.e. the ‘CAN of WORMS’ that is the moral/social acceptancy/or not of widespread human behavioural traits that have been legislated against in the past and have recently been reformed, where do you stop because to many, as in the example of incest it is not the reproductive consequence of the relationship that is most abhorrent it is the incestuous act itself that causes the revulsion? Incest is using the same gene pool over and over which will lead to genetic abnormalities,that is why it is against the law,look at breeding programs for zoos they do all they can to introduce other gene pools into their programs because of the inherent risk of genetic abnormalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) In breeding already happens in the UK and does cause health problems in children, but few politicians health workers are willing to talk or do anything about the problem in case they are called racist. Are children that this affects taught this as part of sex education in schools, I doubt it the PC brigade would not allow it. Studies show that in Bradford, which has a large Pakistani community, 70 per cent of marriages are between relatives — and more than half of these are between first cousins. The result of this inbreeding? Terrible disabilities like the ones I have witnessed in the children born to a woman in my own community. Her first child was born blind, the second deaf and the third mute. Edited February 22, 2015 by ordnance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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