hollidca Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hi All, Over the last 6 months or so I have been getting clay pigeon lessons locally and last week my girlfriend asked if she could come for a lesson too, which I'm pretty happy about of course. However, when she was little her dad (farmer) perhaps introduced her to recoil a little too early, or she wasn't holding the gun tight enough into her shoulder; either way she has asked me to find a good recoil shoulder pad for her. Any advice on good ones? I ideally don't want to spend more than £30. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just buy some lighter carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollidca Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 The grounds provide the carts with the lessons, I'm not sure there is a choice. Although I know she'll be shooting a 20 gauge whereas I would normally shoot a 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Got a friend who has a shoulder injury. Using a shoulder pad and using lighter loads in 12g. Powder is only 21gr. Recoil is much less, I've tried them. Edited February 20, 2015 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) My youngest is a big handy lad, but smashed his shoulder at motocross, which is still a bit sore. He has a pad which fits inside his skeet vest. Got it at Malmo. Works a treat. Edited February 20, 2015 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) If the issue is once bitten by recoil now twice shy there probably is mileage in getting what is requested... the Musto pad that goes in the shooting vest is effective and isn't bulky or you may be able to find a Past pad that's designed for a woman ... Then make sure that the lesson giver fully understands the "as little recoil as possible" thing ... get it wrong and you could be a a single gun .... Edited February 20, 2015 by seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollidca Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Seeker, that is exactly the point I was making! Know of any good pads that aren't inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Females are an odd shape and don’t tend to get the butt into the pocket of the shoulder (I’ve got 4 daughters and all have shot at some time) The problems aren't necessarily of recoil but of this incorrect butt placement. This is partially because they don’t have the arm strength to hold the gun up without leaning backward to counteract the weight and then get into a weight on the back foot rather that on the front foot. I found some thin 4 mm high density foam that I cut into a sort of shoe insert sort of shape that they can put into the shoulder under their clothing that seems to help a lot but using a lighter cartridge allied to good mount will help greatly. No3 can knock em down ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Any coach worth there salts will have low recoil cartridges and a selection of guns so the gun is not to heavy not long and not to low allowing her to mount and shot from the correct position without excessive recoil. Coupled with the fact most Dads/husbandshave a gun that fitted them not a young daughter or wife then wack in a nice game load put them off often for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Seeker, that is exactly the point I was making! Know of any good pads that aren't inserts? Goog 'Past recoil shield ', they do a range of fittings, from memory they also list under rifle accesories .. they may be others that do the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 could ask the shooting ground if they have one to borrow and would cost nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 could ask the shooting ground if they have one to borrow and would cost nothing! Also mention to the coach about her problem, He should/will have available light 20 bore loads if its at a ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travlaa Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I got my other half a musto recoil pad that she wears over her jacket. Just slips onto the shoulder. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B005YCZTFU?vs=1 I then used 21gr loads so the recoil is next to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 My daughter had same issue but instructor suggested moving from a 20 to a 12g and using a 24g load. Gunsmiths also improves fit of gun and also had some slightly slower speed shells (I've forgotten make) but the effect was no recoil at all and she then could dispence with recoil pads etc and shot game/clays quite competently. It may take bait of time but thisis easily overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) My daughter had same issue but instructor suggested moving from a 20 to a 12g and using a 24g load. Gunsmiths also improves fit of gun and also had some slightly slower speed shells (I've forgotten make) but the effect was no recoil at all and she then could dispence with recoil pads etc and shot game/clays quite competently. It may take bait of time but thisis easily overcome. over the years I have known quite a few men who would have liked a wife, daughter or girlfriend to take up shooting. A big problem that I find is that the women haven't got the physical strength to hold the weight of a larger gun and end up leaning backwards to try to compensate for this weight. Gun mount goes right out of the window and consequently doesn't connect with any targets. The female shooter gets a lot of help and advice from other male on looking shooters, which although well meant meant has the effect of making the female feel self conscious amd that people are looking at her or that she is holding up other shooters. Generally this has the effect of the woman not wanting to shoot any further. This means that either the equipment is sold all put away in the gun cupboard not to be used again. Shooting is one of the few sports where women can compete on an even level against men if they have the motivation and the equipment to achieve this. In the two pictures of my daughter shooting she is using a leighweigh 686 20 bore which she can physically handle with sensible loads. OK she is never going to compete in the olympics but she can certainly knock down a good percentage of sporting clays. when i have taken the girls to start shooting I take them to a field on the farm with another person who operates the trap and we set up a driven bird so that it can be seen against a sky background. this means that the clay is slowing down and can be clearly seen against the sky. This target is fairly easy to hit because it can be seen coming in a straight line and allows time to pick it up and follow through. This promotes confidence and we go from there. Ps. That is not a smokey burn on the cartridge in the first picture. It was a fairly humid day down near a lake and it must have been a result of the humidity like the decompresion wave over a planes wing that the camera has picked up Edited February 22, 2015 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogcal Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I've got a Pachmayer slip-on recoil pad on my Beretta 301 which I purchased last year when the arthritis in my shoulder got really bad and I've got to say that it made all the difference and I hardly notice the recoil now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codeye Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ive got one sat around doing nothing drop me a pm with your details and its all yours f o c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) All im.going to say get 21g hull comp X dont feel nothing from them ive had a ten year old lad first time shooting a shotgun do 75 sporting lay out with 28g comp X without him saying about kick and I keep asking if he was ok and not in any pain thos is in a light single barrel 12 bore. Imo shooting 21grams in a lighter 20bore is going to kick more than 21grams in a 12bore Edited February 23, 2015 by littlerob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Need to get her a past field recoil pad for women good bit of kit our lass uses one when firing her 8 bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollidca Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hi All, Thanks again for your advice and help. I took her out on the clays today and the recoil pad worked really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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