Crash72 Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hey folks, A little advice please. The two farms I shoot over are putting beans down next week. When would be the best time to shoot? Many thanks in advance, Crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Drill if your lucky with any spilled beans on top but be quick, and harvest time. They are not interested in the growing plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Drill if your lucky with any spilled beans on top but be quick, and harvest time. They are not interested in the growing plant. + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yidoharry Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Drill if your lucky with any spilled beans on top but be quick, and harvest time. They are not interested in the growing plant. +1....good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Drill if your lucky with any spilled beans on top but be quick, and harvest time. They are not interested in the growing plant. We have shot good bags over drilled beans when they are green and three or four inches tall, I understand it's not the greenery they are after but just because it's germinated doesn't mean you won't shoot them on it, as said though this doesn't last long and the worse the drill is the better the shooting is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 We have shot good bags over drilled beans when they are green and three or four inches tall, I understand it's not the greenery they are after but just because it's germinated doesn't mean you won't shoot them on it, as said though this doesn't last long and the worse the drill is the better the shooting is! Yes Ive shot some nice bags over fresh drilled beans in the past but not these days with the efficient drill rigs used unfortunately. only chance on my permissions is a drill fault or spillage, much the same with the peas shot in deep into the ground with virtually no spillage, but fingers crossed for when the peas break through. . Gone are the days of seed spills, iffy drilling and the farmers leaving stubble plus lose crop seed alone to let the weed grow on before ploughing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash72 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 So should I be there when the tractors are there? Also, how many days afterwards will it be good for shooting? Also, I'm assuming decoys are best? Thanks in advance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Observation is key, nobody can tell you the best time, it's up to you to moniter activity, if birds are in the area it could be the same or next day, if they have to find it then four or five days but the longer it goes on the more chance of germination. I agree that drills are very efficient but operators are not always the best and there may well be areas where seed has been spilled and certainly where the drill turns is always a favourite, we have shot over bean fields that look devoid of beans on the surface but the pigeons seem to find them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocknee Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 The best time by far is when the pigeons are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hey folks, A little advice please. The two farms I shoot over are putting beans down next week. When would be the best time to shoot? Many thanks in advance, Crash I think that you should ask me along to advise........with my gun of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Best time to shoot can vary with how much seed is left on top , if there is little they will have cleared it up in a day or two , if there is a lot it can perhaps be left longer for numbers to build , so as said observation is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 We're drilling a few 100 acres of beans again this year, last year it was a wipe out in them, not a bird to be seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 We're drilling a few 100 acres of beans again this year, last year it was a wipe out in them, not a bird to be seen!don't say that i'm waiting for some to be drilled in silby lol thought i'd be on to a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 don't say that i'm waiting for some to be drilled in silby lol thought i'd be on to a good thing. Mike It might be great, last year was the first time we put them in since the new nitrogen fixing rules came in, I was expecting good shooting, the birds stuck to the wheat and rape. We considered peas, but every other farm around us went for that so we took a chance, paid off, the whole lot went for human consumption, wonga. We're considering millet too, if I can't get a decent bag of pigeons whilst growing ******* bird seed I'm giving up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 lol fingers crossed kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 great on the beans just after the drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefy Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 the best shooting I have had was after the beans were harvested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Some days they are on it right after drilling and sometimes it takes a while so try to recce it every day as often as you can. Be aware that sometimes they commit to the field for one day only and never come back again until harvest so when you go for a recce take your gear with you. If they are on it don't wait until the next day to get stuck in. Even if they are hammering it don't set up until you have established the flight lines in and out. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Some days they are on it right after drilling and sometimes it takes a while so try to recce it every day as often as you can. Be aware that sometimes they commit to the field for one day only and never come back again until harvest so when you go for a recce take your gear with you. If they are on it don't wait until the next day to get stuck in. Even if they are hammering it don't set up until you have established the flight lines in and out. Good luck. This is a good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 This is a good post. I agree. We need to hear more from MIlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I agree. We need to hear more from MIlo. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Hey folks, A little advice please. The two farms I shoot over are putting beans down next week. When would be the best time to shoot? Many thanks in advance, Crash Hi Crash, Forgot to mention that if beans are going in on two farms, two fields or even one big one, you should be prepared to "flag off" the areas on which you wish to deter pigeons from feeding. I have found that a combination of flags and rope bangers work best. This is assuming the farmer doesn't object and there is no fire risk. I hang two lines of bangers in each position to provide a level of redundancy in case one rope fails. If you are lucky enough to be set up in a great location with lots of traffic the last thing you want is to have to leave the hide to sort out something you could have done properly in the first place. Watching birds pile into your pattern while you are fiddling about with something 300 yards away can be frustrating. Good luck, Milo. Edited March 20, 2015 by Milo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 don't forget lad's it doesn't take long for the pigeon's to get a crop full, so just keep on top of your game. as far as bangers, I have to be careful of the dog walkers they spring up at any time for me. so flags would be plan b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I can remember a day on a newly sown bean field that was supposed to be a golden day only to sit out the day frozen to the marrow and fighting all day to keep the hide from ending up down in the hedge down in the bottom of the field. I don’t think that I had more than half a dozen chances before I called a halt to it. For some reason the birds never even looked at that field which was a bit surprising because there were two good strong lines over it and we had shot some very good bags when the previous wheat stubble had been left for a couple of weeks and then left disked. Basically we were decoying on dirt. There would have to be a fair amount of birds on the field for me to set up if it was as cold a day like this morning was. Experience has shown me that it aint no fun getting hypothermia waiting for birds that don’t show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I can remember a day on a newly sown bean field that was supposed to be a golden day only to sit out the day frozen to the marrow and fighting all day to keep the hide from ending up down in the hedge down in the bottom of the field. I don’t think that I had more than half a dozen chances before I called a halt to it. For some reason the birds never even looked at that field which was a bit surprising because there were two good strong lines over it and we had shot some very good bags when the previous wheat stubble had been left for a couple of weeks and then left disked. Basically we were decoying on dirt. There would have to be a fair amount of birds on the field for me to set up if it was as cold a day like this morning was. Experience has shown me that it aint no fun getting hypothermia waiting for birds that don’t show up. That's what I found last year, on drill and on harvest, nothing, nadder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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