kdubya Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 But the rider didn't hit her, the horse did, therefore it is highly likley the rider would not have known a thing about it. ha ha ha ha talk about spin that's going faster than the hadron collider. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markr Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 But the rider didn't hit her, the horse did, therefore it is highly likley the rider would not have known a thing about it. unless blind im sure the rider knew he'd hit her, lets face it riders need to be aware of everything around them. my defence if i get caught speeding will now be "it wasnt me officer it was my car i had no idea it was speeding" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Good arrow that, lol She was well camouflaged against the back ground and was hard to see, She shouldn't have been there in the first place , Simples, Why cover your face ???? Well we all know the answer to that one Atb Flynny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Good arrow that, lol She was well camouflaged against the back ground and was hard to see, She shouldn't have been there in the first place , Simples, Why cover your face ? ??? Well we all know the answer to that one Atb Flynny did she have fatigues on? er no looked to be in ordinary country clothing to me? hard to see well I manged it? should not have been there well yes, but that does not mean you can inflict grievous bodily harm and just clear off without conscience or consequence. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 wasnt a huntsman attacked by retard sabs recently while going about his lawfull business ?? i dont blame him for not stopping, it could have been a trap for all he knew !!! when folk who wont/cant respect other peoples interests, regardless if its agrees with them or not, have finally gotten everything banned - what then ?? tough luck for her - hope it didnt hurt too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I have no time for hunt saboteurs. They seem hell bent on confrontation, intent on forcing their views on others and are a cowardly bunch who hide behind masks. The dash-cam footage shows the incident, but not the build up. This would not have happened, had she not been trying to disrupt someone's lawful activity. That said, the footage looks bad. Rider is going full tilt, past pedestrians. If he hadn't realised that his horse could cause such damage, perhaps he should not ride again. It looks deliberate and I can't think that he didn't know he had hit her. No backward glance, to see the effects of his actions. He might well pay for his arrogance. Too little on view to say, with conviction, the degree of blame to be attached to either party. If it gets to court, he may well have cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 did she have fatigues on? er no looked to be in ordinary country clothing to me? hard to see well I manged it? should not have been there well yes, but that does not mean you can inflict grievous bodily harm and just clear off without conscience or consequence. KW Er no , not fatigues, Ok then KW , " she blended "in with that pile of whatever it was behind her, she wasn't wearing a high viz jacket was she!! Where did I say she was wearing fatigues/ camo eh Eh!! Flynny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitfitter Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) The cps did not follow this up they would have the full video and witness statements yet they saw no reason to bring charges only after a petition brought by a not so impartial group of people who I am sure have only seen one side of the accident and an edited version of the video have resulted in the cases review it may make the news but I will be very surprised if it makes court Edited March 14, 2015 by Bitfitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I struggle to understand the negative comments towards the horse rider on this a shooting/hunting forum. I wonder how people like KW would feel if the sab scum got in there way when they where trying to legally shoot pigeons etc. What would your view be KW if you where attacked by sabs? They should not have been there, she was injured because of her own (and the rest of the flea ridden lefty's) actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 If it was deliberate Bloody good shot sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 But trespass isn't a criminal offence, it's a civil matter these days NOT if it is Aggravated Tresspass, which was introduced to prevent the disruption of grouse shooting, but could be applied here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) so if someone walks out in front of my car whilst the little red mans on at traffic lights im allowed to run them over?? im not a lover of antis/sabs but that doesn't mean what happened was right No you have to try to avoid them, but if doing so would cause greater injury to other people and they have failed to obey a pedestrian road signal then yes, you can hit them and then claim for the damages to your motor vehicle from them if it can be proved that they were negligent ie failed to observe traffic conditions and road signals! Edited March 14, 2015 by secretagentmole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I read the defensive comments towards the lefty scum and have to wonder if the commenters are on the correct forum? When the lefty scum are not protesting at hunts they are protesting at game shoots, once they have had enough of that they will come for the isolated pigeon shooter. That stupid bint nid did not give a damn about the welfare of the rider or the horse so sod her and all the other work shy tree hugging dope smoking scum that she swaps fleas with. I can recall an incident which involved a lone pigeon shooter on the outskirts of Chester some 10 years ago. The Sabs were out to disrupt the Cheshire Beagles meet. They were fed false information as to where the hunt were going to be. Unable to find the hunt, they happened upon a van parked in a field gateway. A lone pigeon shooter was in a pithole in the middle of the field. They began to smash up his vehicle, upon which he returned with his gun unloaded and in a slip. They then set upon the poor guy until he was able to lock himself in the vehicle which they then tried to overturn. He did have a mobile phone, but was unable to get a signal. There was no camera on his phone. His injuries thankfully were slight and of course, no persons were ever apprehended. Edited March 14, 2015 by Westley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 No you have to try to avoid them, but if doing so would cause greater injury to other people and they have failed to obey a pedestrian road signal then yes, you can hit them and then claim for the damages to your motor vehicle from them if it can be proved that they were negligent ie failed to observe traffic conditions and road signals! Are you not overlooking the fact that they would have been AT the crossing LEGALLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Perhaps she covered her face to prevent the horse from becoming alarmed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I don't know how many of you are or have been horse riders. I owned an anglo arab for years that was really headstrong. I loved riding it because it was as mad as I was. People don't realize it's not a car your driving that can stop when needed. a horse has a brain of its own and if it wants to jump sideways, 12ft across the road when a plastic bag flaps in the hedge, there is very little you can do about it. A Horse that is used by a hunt is bred for that purpose (hunting) they must be big, brave, forward going , fit and jump well. When you get a lot of horses together on a hunt they all go up a few gears and get a bit fired up. Most weigh about 1/2 a ton I'm ******** if I'd get anywhere near to being in the way of one. It proves just how little these people know about the ways of animals and country life, as said before, a horse will do it's utmost to avoid hitting a human, even to it's own detriment. I wasn't there but I think, it was bolting from something that scared it and it had nowhere to go but that gateway, and as said rider couldn't stop it. and ignorance of horses put that woman in harms way. Huntsman wasn't kicking on ,was trying to regain bottom leg contact with horse That's my two pence worth Edited March 14, 2015 by tonker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photon Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Where did the info of her medical condition and the 2 week stay in hospital come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 This case was considered incredibly carefully and included consideration of a reconstruction exercise by expert mounted officers from Avon and Somerset police, I think that says it all wrong place at the wrong time she's one lucky cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I don't know how many of you are or have been horse riders. I owned an anglo arab for years that was really headstrong. I loved riding it because it was as mad as I was. People don't realize it's not a car your driving that can stop when needed. a horse has a brain of its own and if it wants to jump sideways, 12ft across the road when a plastic bag flaps in the hedge, there is very little you can do about it. A Horse that is used by a hunt is bred for that purpose (hunting) they must be big, brave, forward going , fit and jump well. When you get a lot of horses together on a hunt they all go up a few gears and get a bit fired up. Most weigh about 1/2 a ton I'm ******** if I'd get anywhere near to being in the way of one. It proves just how little these people know about the ways of animals and country life, as said before, a horse will do it's utmost to avoid hitting a human, even to it's own detriment. I wasn't there but I think, it was bolting from something that scared it and it had nowhere to go but that gateway, and as said rider couldn't stop it. and ignorance of horses put that woman in harms way. Huntsman wasn't kicking on ,was trying to regain bottom leg contact with horse That's my two pence worth Well said. I do think it looks terrible on first look and does hunting no favours. but i also admit i havenae a clue about riding horses but neither will most of the general public, most folk will think u can stop/manuevre them easily But these are the same people that manged to have ALL their cameras turned off when they decided to set about a hunt employee with metal bars. Not right wot happened but mibee it is karma a bit I did find it a wee bit strange that the red coat was going throu the gate away from the 'field' himself but wot u say does make sense in that horse might have got a fright and just took of as they had just blown an air horn It does seem strange that these minority groups have so much power, yet shooters/hunters field sports are also a minority group yet seem to have lost our voice over last 2 generations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Best response so far from tonker. which begs the question - do those flaming the horseman have any experience of riding anything other than the high horse ? daft bint got what she deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Just thinking can riders folowers have any claim on sabs if they are badly hurt by a horse being delibertily frightened/scared by sab's. Would imagine that could be a real risk It's a shame they can no longer be 'sorted out' but most have far to much to lose. My grandpa was banned from the local hunt many years ago for giving a sab a hiding with a turnip/swede, think he manged to pick wot ever root while he was still mounted and give the boy a good 'doing', that was a long time ago prob in 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 It does seem strange that these minority groups have so much power, yet shooters/hunters field sports are also a minority group yet seem to have lost our voice over last 2 generations It is mostly down to the "socialists" - you shoot or partake in country sports so, according to their definition, you are a wealthy toff - whereas, Tony B Liar, millipeeds various, E Ballsup, et all are poor working class, put upon lads. Class war pure and simple with a large dash of left wing, lentil munching, tree hugging idiots who believe everything they are told about the cruelty of country people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Huntsman wasn't kicking on ,was trying to regain bottom leg contact with horse Dead right he was trying to get back into position the leg that struck the woman,(after according to some not realising he had hit her he he,) regardless of why the horse was galloping along only the rider will know, but the crass comments here of "she got what she deserved" are fickle, sad, and just wrong, so to those on this forum who derive some sort of pleasure from seeing this woman as deluded as she may be, injured and injured very badly at that, then I would suggest your temperament is suspect to say the very least, and I am surprised that this forum has indeed allowed such comments to stand. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Dead right he was trying to get back into position the leg that struck the woman,(after according to some not realising he had hit her he he,) regardless of why the horse was galloping along only the rider will know, but the crass comments here of "she got what she deserved" are fickle, sad, and just wrong, so to those on this forum who derive some sort of pleasure from seeing this woman as deluded as she may be, injured and injured very badly at that, then I would suggest your temperament is suspect to say the very least, and I am surprised that this forum has indeed allowed such comments to stand. KW Has anyone actually said that they have found pleasure in that stupid woman getting hurt? I get no pleasure at all but I still do think she deserved what happened, she was somewhere she shouldn't have been, doing something she should not have been doing, as I said before, she showed no concern for the horses or riders welfare so why the hell should we have any for hers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Has anyone actually said that they have found pleasure in that stupid woman getting hurt? I get no pleasure at all but I still do think she deserved what happened, she was somewhere she shouldn't have been, doing something she should not have been doing, as I said before, she showed no concern for the horses or riders welfare so why the hell should we have any for hers ? +1 she put herself in harms way and paid the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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