UKIP - merged threads

[kdubya]

I wonder what will happen with the #EdStone

 

At least it won't end up in the garden of No' 10.

actually mentioned that at work, perhaps it will now become his epitaph

 

 

KW

[grrclark]

actually mentioned that at work, perhaps it will now become his epitaph

 

 

KW

There was plenty space left on it to write some touching words. I reckon his brother could suggest something suitable.

[overandunder2012]

well nobody saw that coming, well they got a majority so it must be what the people wanted at least under this system. the other partys well most will have to really work to recover lib dems will take years to get back to where they were if ever. ukip are going to really struggle with no nigel love him or hate him will take some doing to replace him and it may be a very long time before they get a vote share like they have now as without nigel it may not last. labour are already looking for a new tony blair it seems.

 

its been interesting thats for sure

[Fisherman Mike]

first to put my hands up and say I got the result wrong, still find it hard to take in but we have a con majority who would have thought based on the polls eh! but hats off to them lets hope we are not regretting it later, as for UKIP being trashed nothing further from the truth, the proportion of vote would have given them about a 100 seats under PR system but we have 1st past the post, so lets build on it how many second places were achieved ? mainly in labour strongholds. ( what happened to a vote for UKIP is a vote for labour?)

 

Sad to see Farage fall on his sword perhaps he will become chair backing Carswell? good points seeing cable Balls and Alexander disappear oh and not to forget perhaps the end of that traitorous cretin Galloway.and the inevitable break away of Scotland in the not to distant future.

 

so to end tip of the hat to you con men you won and quite decisively at that.

 

 

KW

Fair do's..respect to you. We have to show humility in defeat or victory.

 

All's fair in Love and War ( and politics )

 

Do you think though UKIP can survive without Farages Leadership?

[FalconFN]

first to put my hands up and say I got the result wrong, still find it hard to take in but we have a con majority who would have thought based on the polls eh! but hats off to them lets hope we are not regretting it later, as for UKIP being trashed nothing further from the truth, the proportion of vote would have given them about a 100 seats under PR system but we have 1st past the post, so lets build on it how many second places were achieved ? mainly in labour strongholds. ( what happened to a vote for UKIP is a vote for labour?)

 

Sad to see Farage fall on his sword perhaps he will become chair backing Carswell? good points seeing cable Balls and Alexander disappear oh and not to forget perhaps the end of that traitorous cretin Galloway.and the inevitable break away of Scotland in the not to distant future.

 

so to end tip of the hat to you con men you won and quite decisively at that.

 

 

KW

I think most of us got it wrong, I was pretty sure it'd be a messy tory-lib dem coalitiin again.

 

I've just woken up after getting home at 7.30am, then getting kids to school etc but having a bit if time to digest I think the outcome will have some pretty major implications for our political future.

 

I totally agree with you on Balls and Galloway but Cable is more a victim than a villain in this scene.

 

All the best.

[kdubya]

Fair do's..respect to you. We have to show humility in defeat or victory.

 

All's fair in Love and War ( and politics )

 

Do you think though UKIP can survive without Farages Leadership?

Yes, listened to Farage's announcement of his resignation, thought it was wonderful it offered everything I wanted and still want, so why should the momentum stop?

 

KW

[Gordon R]

I listened to all the resignation speeches. Nigel Farage spoke like he was having a conversation with someone. Nick Clegg said nothing. Ed Milliband was awful - just reading a speech. He kept pausing for applause.

 

I think UKIP polled well, although it didn't translate into seats.

 

Ironically, I think the SNP's biggest triumph could be the start of their own downfall. Sturgeon kept on about "Strong for Scotland" and sod the cost to the rest of the UK. She said her party and Labour would keep David Cameron out of number 10. Now the Tories have a majority, the SNP are almost toothless. It could end up with their highest number of MPs having no say in anything whatsoever.

 

The SNP have nailed Scotland's colours to the mast. The Tories might be kind to them, but if they decide the Scots can have only their fair share and no more, what will the SNP do? The Scots will suffer and who will they blame. They ought to look in a mirror.

 

The Tories have nothing to lose if the whole of Scotland is against them.

[mudpatten]

Does this mean that naval ship building will be taken back from Scotland and returned to it`s rightful home in Portsmouth?

[overandunder2012]

I'd rather he was an MP and sticking it to those spineless lying ratbags in the Commons

it seems the people of thanet south didn't feel the same way

[grrclark]

Does this mean that naval ship building will be taken back from Scotland and returned to it`s rightful home in Portsmouth?

No

[kdubya]

Does this mean that naval ship building will be taken back from Scotland and returned to it`s rightful home in Portsmouth?

I hope so, that was part of the price we paid for keeping the kingdom united, its noiw patently obvious they done want to be united , so time to cast them adrift, sorry for the good lads up there but as with us down here, you get what you vote for.

 

KW

[Whitebridges]

Does this mean that naval ship building will be taken back from Scotland and returned to it`s rightful home in Portsmouth?

 

Let's hope so.

 

It might make Wee Jimmy Krankie think a bit more before she opens her mouth.

[mossy835]

ukip had no hope of getting any where,good the cons got in as for labour waist of time.

[neillfrbs]

lets see if he keeps his promise, for a referendum on Europe .

[timmytree]

I voted UKIP, sadly the support they got wasn't reflected in seats but just look at the share of votes. From a party that few had heard of 5 years ago they are now a credible 3rd party in terms of popular appeal right across the board. UKIP gained in nearly every single seat and that may work in their favour in future elections. Many people said a vote for UKIP would let Labour in, that was wrong wasn't it? The polls were wrong, how much money was wasted on them? The SNP success was a protest vote against Westminster, the demolition of the Lib Dems was retribution for a party that sacrificed its ideals purely to court a bit of power and fame.

After the event I'm happy that Cameron has a majority because he'll now have the clout to do something, his problem is that now he'll have to pull his finger out to get some results that keep the electorate happy.

The EU referendum is a must, it has to be clear and concise and not a fudged up travesty. Immigration has to be tackled in a decisive manner as well, there is enough opposition and rebellious Conservative MPs to make Camerons life a misery if he doesn't deliver.

The future for Scotland? I think Sturgeon will go for another referendum because she can't do anything else to keep her supporters behind her. Her Mps in Westminster are toothless against the rest, they murdered Labour but I don't see they can have any influence in real terms.

As a final point, I've been amazed at the ignorance of a large part of the voting public, many didn't have the faintest idea of what party supported what policy, who was who and who stood for what. After many rows in work including a classic with one stupid person who voted Labour because "red is my favourite colour" isn't it about time that the right to vote is dependent on passing some kind of intelligence test?

[Chris Bb]

It might make Wee Jimmy Krankie think a bit more before she opens her mouth.

 

Daft question: She is not an MP, only an MSP. How, therefore can she be leader of the SNP MP's?

 

Unfortunately, if she's not, then that fat ****, who hates us English even more fervently, could be. But, as has been said, hopefully they'll be toothless in Westminster.

[poontang]

 

 

 

 

Do you think though UKIP can survive without Farages Leadership?

 

Yes...but he'll be back.

 

In September.

 

I think he needs a rest, he looks knackered, and has lost some of his mojo over the last few months. He made a mistake saying he'd resign if he didn't win in Thanet, and I think he knew that.

As a man of principle he resigned this morning.

However, that doesn't stop him reapplying for the job of leader when it comes up in September.

A break will do him good, and he'll be back re-energised and ready to roll.

I suspect he'll be working behind the scenes on the party's future direction over the summer. Expect a fairer voting system to be a big part of that.

 

Long live the king.

[grrclark]

 

Daft question: She is not an MP, only an MSP. How, therefore can she be leader of the SNP MP's?

 

Unfortunately, if she's not, then that fat ****, who hates us English even more fervently, could be. But, as has been said, hopefully they'll be toothless in Westminster.

It depends on what the party rules are about who can be leader. She is the political leader of the party, her husband is the CEO. He does the commercial side of things, she addresses policy.

[FalconFN]

 

Yes...but he'll be back.

 

In September.

 

I think he needs a rest, he looks knackered, and has lost some of his mojo over the last few months. He made a mistake saying he'd resign if he didn't win in Thanet, and I think he knew that.

As a man of principle he resigned this morning.

However, that doesn't stop him reapplying for the job of leader when it comes up in September.

A break will do him good, and he'll be back re-energised and ready to roll.

I suspect he'll be working behind the scenes on the party's future direction over the summer. Expect a fairer voting system to be a big part of that.

 

Long live the king.

If he does that he will loose a huge amount of respect and will have show his 'principals' to be just as flexible as the politicians in Westminster bubble.

 

I still think his stepping down will help them as their long term aim seems to be labour voters in the north. They will try to get a Northern Nigel if they can. If DC comes good on his referendum promise ukip will need to change course and I think the 'working man/bloke down the pub' will be their target so they will try to out-labour Labour.

[overandunder2012]

 

Yes...but he'll be back.

 

In September.

 

I think he needs a rest, he looks knackered, and has lost some of his mojo over the last few months. He made a mistake saying he'd resign if he didn't win in Thanet, and I think he knew that.

As a man of principle he resigned this morning.

However, that doesn't stop him reapplying for the job of leader when it comes up in September.

A break will do him good, and he'll be back re-energised and ready to roll.

I suspect he'll be working behind the scenes on the party's future direction over the summer. Expect a fairer voting system to be a big part of that.

 

Long live the king.

if he comes back he breaks his word and ruins what credibility he still has, to come back will give him less credibility than clegg and miliband in most peoples view i would think as at least when they go they will be staying gone.

[LondonLuke]

Favourite Ice Cream Flavour?

A class of 46.5 children were asked what their favourite ice cream flavour was. The winning flavour would be served to everyone, every day for the next 5 years.

16 kids didn’t care.

The 30.5 that did care voted for blueberry (11 kids), strawberry (9 kids), rum & raisin (4 kids), banana (2 kids), haggis (1.5), mint (1) and a mix of other flavours…probably including chocolate (1 kid).

 

Strangely however, the school’s voting system was set up to award blueberry half the number of votes even though only 36.8% of the class liked it.

 

Strawberry came in at a close second with just under a third of the class liking it but again, the school’s system awarded it over a third of all the votes.

 

Personally I’m not a fan of rum and raisin, however 4 kids really liked it. This time, the school’s system decided that their combined opinion was only worth 0.15% of the votes.

Haggis flavour even had a supporter, despite haggis making the menu previously but quickly voted off because most children didn’t like their ice cream to taste like the internal organs of a sheep. This time the school’s system thought that this single supporters’ taste (4.8% of the class) was worth 8.7% of the votes.

 

What a silly system. Unfortunately the kids had previously complained, but when they were asked whether to keep it or replace it with something more representative, the children, as children often do, reacted with confusion and defaulted to maintaining the status quo.

 

Now everyone is eating blueberry ice cream despite the fact that 63% of the class wanted something else. Yuk

Edited May 8, 2015 by LondonLuke

[grrclark]

That's why we have a childhood obesity problem, all the kids are eating ice cream

[LondonLuke]

That's why we have a childhood obesity problem, all the kids are eating ice cream

 

Only 37% of them

[grrclark]

 

Only 37% of them

Thought is was only 37% of them that liked the flavour, the rest just had to swallow it.

 

Anyway, thank goodness for the wiser blueberry fans, the rest will learn to love it.....

[mick miller]

Rum & Raisin is my ice-cream of choice now. I find the Blueberry is now a tad too richly flavoured and often leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As for Strawberry and Banana, well meh. They both just seem to taste of nothing other than Vanilla these days. Hopefully the Haggis flavour will soon be kept in a fridge of its own, as there is the risk it will effect the taste of all the others to their detriment, which is surprising as it's such a small, inconsequential tub.