Phil9 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hiya guys need some advice please,, I did a job at a local church today, and the vicar was looking up at the bell tower, then said to me I need to get rid of them pigeons and quickly (feral pigeons). So I offered my services to him explaining how I'd get rid ov them, to which he replied the jobs yours😊, after having a good look round sussing out what best area to shoot from,backstops ect I told him I'd be up later in the week to try sort the problem, the church is away from any main roads and doesn't have any roads or footpaths around it also the graveyard/church gates are locked at 6:30pm every night so after that is when I no I can safely shoot knowing there isn't anybody lurking in the graveyard (well alive anyway)🙈 my question is, have any of you chaps got any same perms or is there any thing that says you can't shoot in a graveyard/church grounds??? The vicar has said he will sign a permission slip for me so I'm covered with that, thanks phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'll be useing my daystate MK4 is for the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Make sure you take your 12g, loaded with silver....... just in case the inhabitants object.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'll sure consider that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wilksy Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 It's an unusual one gods creatures and all that! You would have thought they would more into prevention or use hawks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 You will be fine, especially as the vicar said he would sign a permission slip. As long as you have permission to be in the grounds then no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm not entirely sure that the vicar has the authority to grant permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm not entirely sure that the vicar has the authority to grant permission. By the time Phil9 gets to meet the top man it will be to late to go shooting. Its difficult getting into the hide then as the wings get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 By the time Phil9 gets to meet the top man it will be to late to go shooting. Its difficult getting into the hide then as the wings get in the way. Sorry. I meant that usually the diocese has all 'rights'. The vicar is only a custodian. And yes, there's only so far up the chain of command any of us can go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Churches are expensive buildings. Make sure your insurance is up to date. If the vicar says it's OK then you are OK. The Parochial Church Council are the custodians but the vicar will be the boss. Amazing how some of the contributors above come up with all sorts of scaremongering. Wonder that they ever get any shooting done. In the 'olden' days one chap in the village was always given permission to shoot pigeons from the church tower or steeple. Providing the vicar got a couple for lunch now and then. Get in and fill your boots boy. Holly pigs must taste better than the normal variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you feel you may be spotted then it would be wise to phone the police non emergency number and let them know you are carrying out a pest control job at ____ church involving the use of a airgun and leave your mobile number. We used to do this when doing similar in small places when working for a large well known pest control company... Just incase spotted people freak and phone 999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 By the time Phil9 gets to meet the top man it will be to late to go shooting. Its difficult getting into the hide then as the wings get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you feel you may be spotted then it would be wise to phone the police non emergency number and let them know you are carrying out a pest control job at ____ church involving the use of a airgun and leave your mobile number. We used to do this when doing similar in small places when working for a large well known pest control company... Just incase spotted people freak and phone 999. yeah I definitely will do that mate better to be known than av the plod turn up,, with a waste off both our times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 yeah I definitely will do that mate better to be known than av the plod turn up,, with a waste off both our times. Definitely. It's not such a big deal on a bigger perm, I don't bother calling when out where I shoot, its mainly if a small place where you are at a high risk of being spotted. :-). They may still send someone out but they know what they are dealing with upfront so you won't be on your tummy with 5 red dots on you're forehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Graveyard? Will you be working a skeleton shift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Graveyard? Will you be working a skeleton shift?💀👻💀👻 1 thing for sure I'll be gone before it gets dark🙈👻👀💩💩💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Used to know someone that worked in Durham Cathedral. .. He was a very very mild mannered religious type. Not a bad word about anyone. Mention pigeons to him...the air went blue! Seems they're the cause of many tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage. Crack on...and offer the vicar a few in case he or his own flock may be partial to eating them. Edited April 14, 2015 by saddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 You never know, this could open a whole load of churchyard shooting once the Vicar has his next meet up with colleages. I would reckon its an ongoing problem for churches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenjammer Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 By the time Phil9 gets to meet the top man it will be to late to go shooting. Its difficult getting into the hide then as the wings get in the way. Ah that made me laugh Pigeons are a problem on all public buildings, bats in churches even worse and the law protects them! The Vicar and the PCC will be empowered with protecting and stopping degradation by pests I would imagine amongst their other duties. It is a matter of grave concern to many churches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Ah that made me laugh Pigeons are a problem on all public buildings, bats in churches even worse and the law protects them! The Vicar and the PCC will be empowered with protecting and stopping degradation by pests I would imagine amongst their other duties. It is a matter of grave concern to many churches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBW Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Have shot/ferreted churchyards and cemeteries before, as above inform police if shooting other than that just be careful even funny times of night you'll be surprised at the people that can appear. If going on a weekend be aware that a locked gate may not deter vandals/courting couples and if ther is a working cemetery in the grounds, be aware people will come to visit graves at any time of night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Yeah I'd let the police know just to be save a visit. Edited April 15, 2015 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil9 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 You never know, this could open a whole load of churchyard shooting once the Vicar has his next meet up with colleages. I would reckon its an ongoing problem for churches.thats what I thought myself as he already said to me one of his fellow vicars has quite a few rabbits in his vicarage garden an he's going to speak to him and then let me know??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) If you feel you may be spotted then it would be wise to phone the police non emergency number and let them know you are carrying out a pest control job at ____ church involving the use of a airgun and leave your mobile number. We used to do this when doing similar in small places when working for a large well known pest control company... Just incase spotted people freak and phone 999. good advice, he will be seen, no doubt about it. The other thing is that people sleeping rough favour churchyards because they are safer than shop doorways. So he might encounter some strange characters Edited April 15, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 good advice, he will be seen, no doubt about it. The other thing is that people sleeping rough favour churchyards because they are safer than shop doorways. So he might encounter some strange characters Creepy eh, once I was gassing rabbits in a grave yard once with two colleagues (Phostoxin) last light after cemetery closed and the amount of people coming over to the outer perimeter was odd... some of them certainly weren't there to mourn the dead! Seemingly popular place for rabbits in graveyards. Came across many a homeless person in church yards, but good on them for thinking 'outside the box' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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