AVB Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) We are moving in July and very likely into rented accomodation until we find a house we like. I can't be bothered to go through the hassle of installing a gun cabinet in a rented property for, hopefully, a period of 6 months. Can I just deposit the guns with a RFD and if so will it be flexible enough to take them out on Friday, shoot on a Saturday and then re deposit them on Monday? Anybody done this before? Any of the Norfolk boys know of a RFD who might do this in or around Nooorwich Cheers Andrew Edited May 11, 2015 by AVB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Anything is possible if you pay for it! How will you secure them between Friday and Monday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Not sure where you are moving to - but I see you are in HERTS. If you are a member at Atkin Grant & Lang - they offer free gun storage as part of your membership. It is about an hour away from Bishops Stortford - but might be worth looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Anything is possible if you pay for it! How will you secure them between Friday and Monday? Good point. As it it a 'temporary' location I assumed I could get away with taking 'appropriate precautions' as you would do when travelling. I'll give BASC a call to see what they suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Give Phillip Webster RFD a ring . 01953 600929 a nice guy who I am sure will help you out . He is near wyndom Norfolk . For the uninitiated Wymondham . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 You will surely have to notify your issuing authority of the move and they may well expect to see a cabinet in the new house. If the "temporary" location bit is applied some people would never get cabinets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Two 10mm holes in the wall and a couple of 10mm rawl bolts will take I'm guessing a maximum of 15 minutes to do. Then a queeze of filler and a splash of paint another 15 minutes when you leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 thats what i would do, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Two 10mm holes in the wall and a couple of 10mm rawl bolts will take I'm guessing a maximum of 15 minutes to do. Then a queeze of filler and a splash of paint another 15 minutes when you leave. Mmmm it took me a damn site longer to do when I installed it originally I am **** at DIY. I wasn't going to take the safe with me just buy a new one when we get to the new permanent house. If leaving them with a RFD is difficult I might just have to make the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do you not have a shooting friend who can put them in his cabinet for a while. Did this when my brother went to France for 6 months - just put his guns on my ticket, no problem. Had 13 guns in the house without any issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Storage cost are not cheap it would probably cheaper to pay a handy man to fit the cabinet if your that much of a diy mong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) As a welcome to good old Norfolkshire, i will come a fit your cabinet for you foc. Jay Edited May 11, 2015 by fat_jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 As a welcome to good old Norfolkshire, i will come a fit your cabinet for you foc. Jay Thts very kind of you. I wouldn't hear of it. I would pay. I'll be in touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Buy a cable lock, then you can secure the guns to anything immovable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Mmmm it took me a damn site longer to do when I installed it originally I am **** at DIY. I wasn't going to take the safe with me just buy a new one when we get to the new permanent house. If leaving them with a RFD is difficult I might just have to make the effort.Fitted a new cabinet on Friday last week in 15 mins and I'm no diy expert!!!! Place against wall and mark through holes in back of cabinet. Move cabinet and drill 2 x 10mm holes (2 will be fine but if you want to do 4 or more its up to you and dependent on how many holes are in back of cabinet then mark how deep you want holes on drill bit by placing against rawl bolt and mark with tipex or tape to save going too deep or shallow).Remove nuts and washers from rawl bolts and push bolts into holes. Place cabinet back so that bolts line up and add washers and nuts then tighter. Job done.I too am happy to assist if you require. Edited May 11, 2015 by Suffolkngood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Thts very kind of you. I wouldn't hear of it. I would pay. I'll be in touch.Drop me a message when you are ready and we can hatch a cunning plan.Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Might need to check with you land lord or letting agent 1st. The storage of firearms in rented accommodation does not legally require specific permission to be sought by or from landlords. Any tenants or prospective tenants seeking permission to store firearms and ammunition on the premises should not unreasonably be refused permission. Consultation with the landlord to gain agreement for the location and fixing of security devices is likely to be necessary dependant upon the terms of the tenancy agreement which can be negotiated. Should a landlord wish to know about the storage of firearms based on potential structural concern the drafting of a tenancy agreement may wish to be carefully worded; for example: The fitting of semi-permanent fixings into the fabric of the property (e.g. TV mounts, gun cabinets etc.) The tenant should firstly consult their landlord or agent as to the siting of such devices to ensure that the structure of the building is not damaged by such work. Repairs or damage to the structure of the property will need to be addressed in the lease and it should be pointed out to the tenant that on surrender of the lease these dilapidations should be made good. Edited May 11, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 This one looks like one for pedants corner . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 these could be just the job for a temp fixing, http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p12620 used some to secure a tyre changer to the floor and they have taken some steel bending strain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 ... that on surrender of the lease these dilapidations should be made good. This bit above in red.... Lived in a few rented places in the last 15 years or so. NEVER sought permission for "a safe" as I always asked about the rules for attaching shelves "& things" to the wall by drilling...they ALL said that as long as no damage was done & the work was made good prior to moving out, then crack on. I'd personally NEVER mention guns to ANY landlord - none of their business - as you are pursuing a legal activity; the surprising thing to me is how many rented places there are being used as cannabis farms & the like....makes me wonder how much interest a landlord shows, esp. if they've had a years rent up front in cash...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 This one looks like one for pedants corner . Harnser I do not think Davyo is being pedantic. Indeed, it seems to me his point was well intended and well made. I am a landlord. We let via an agent. The standard lease does include no drilling holes in walls for shelves, picture hanging etc without the prior agreement of the landlord, and that any such damage must be made good at the end of the tenancy. The clause is quite impractical in the real world but it is there for a purpose. In our case we agreed that pictures could be hung with drilled holes and on exit found the walls of two rooms looking something like the aftermath of Al Capone's Valentine's Day massacre!! But that was an extreme case and we had to go to arbitration to get it resolved (in our favour). In this case I would have no difficulty in principle with agreeing to a request for two holes to fix a cabinet to a wall which would me made good on exit. This is OK on emulsioned walls but almost impossible with patterned papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 How does one get around the issue of skirting boards? I have only fitted two gun cabinets before and had to remove a section of skirting board so that it could be flush to wall. Would be a no no in a rental property I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) How does one get around the issue of skirting boards? I have only fitted two gun cabinets before and had to remove a section of skirting board so that it could be flush to wall. Would be a no no in a rental property I assume.Simple...........mine's in a cupboard but still has skirting so I've sat it on house bricks to elevate it above the skirting and allow it to fit flush against wall. If you prefer, then sit it on a block of wood and paint it/stain it to match. Edited May 12, 2015 by Suffolkngood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Housebricks! Mine are on bespoke wooden plinths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Mine are on bespoke wooden plinths This.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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