Gordon R Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 grrclark - therein lies the problem. Opinion seems at both ends of the spectrum. I will admit to being totally anti drugs. What worries me are those who present drugs in a friendly manner, without ever seeing the misery that they can cause. Perhaps they just don't know or perhaps it doesn't suit their purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 That`s quite interesting. The ones I`ve seen for sale have tended to be around £8+per gram, only slightly cheaper than skunk at £10 per gram. Nottingham must be cheap for weed if you can buy an eighth at that price. Unless the market has changed you wouldn`t get it for that price around here. do you mean the ones you have used,, seems strange why someone whom supports the usage if drugs and trolls the internet looking on these legal high websites is not a user only asking and no offence meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Well, the thing about legal highs is that they are or were 'legal'. You wouldn't bother trolling someone for having a legal pint of Guiness? I'm open minded on the subject and enjoy the discussion. My view point is entirely financial - a load of drugs have been made 'illegal' but that doesn't stop or even slow down those selling and buying them, and all the while plenty of naughty people in the black economy make a fortune. It needs a new approach - what was that about doing the same thing time and time again but all the while expecting a different result? Edit And lastly, I'm reminded by poor Charles Kennedy's early alcohol related death that the legal classification of cannabis must be wrong in that alcohol kills but canabis does not Edited June 3, 2015 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Madness, not reefer madness, just plain ol' madness. Well, the thing about legal highs is that they are or were 'legal'.You wouldn't bother trolling someone for having a legal pint of Guiness?I'm open minded on the subject and enjoy the discussion. My view point is entirely financial - a load of drugs have been made 'illegal' but that doesn't stop or even slow down those selling and buying them, and all the while plenty of naughty people in the black economy make a fortune.It needs a new approach - what was that about doing the same thing time and time again but all the while expecting a different result?EditAnd lastly, I'm reminded by poor Charles Kennedy's early alcohol related death that the legal classification of cannabis must be wrong in that alcohol kills but canabis does not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Thing about legal highs was that back in the 70s they were more or less herbal. Magic mushrooms and packets of Morning Glory seeds you could buy in Woolworths. Today it has moved into a different realm.. Pain killers and tranquilisers for horses etc and no end of weird concoctions cooked up by you don't know who using impure ingredients with things like heroin or cocaine laced in as well to create other forms of addiction in the unwary. When somebody gets done for drugs often a sample goes to the lab. This is less common now because police stations can test for some of them themselves. You should see the reports that come back. Its not just the drugs it the junk that gets added in. Edited June 3, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) The thing about legal highs was that back in the 70s they were more or less herbal. Magic mushrooms and packets of Morning Glory seeds you could buy in Woolworths. Today it has moved into a different realm. Pain killers and tranquilisers for horses etc and no end of weird concoctions cooked up by you don't know who using impure ingredients with things like heroin or cocaine laced in as well to create other forms of addiction in the unwary. When somebody gets done for drugs often a sample goes to the lab. This is less common now because police stations can test for some of them themselves. You should see the reports that come back. Its not just the drugs it the junk that gets added in. if you put coke or heroin in them they arnt legal highs. Edited June 3, 2015 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 its been an interesting debate with some interesting facts from some mixed in with some total ******** from the news paper readers that just type between drinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 do you mean the ones you have used,, seems strange why someone whom supports the usage if drugs and trolls the internet looking on these legal high websites is not a user only asking and no offence meant No offence taken No can`t say I`ve ever bothered with them. But the market stall where I used to buy cig papers from used to stock legal highs and the prices were clearly visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Thing about legal highs was that back in the 70s they were more or less herbal. Magic mushrooms . . . Correct me if I`m wrong but weren`t they made illegal under the Misuse of Drugs Act of 1971? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 The entire drugs war was brought about by Henry Anslinger , he took over a failing police unit that had been fighting the alcohol prohibition in America after it been legalised and spent his entire career demonising drugs in order to further his career and seek some sort of vengeance for the fact that as a child his mother was an opiate addict. He was an egotistical hypocritical lunatic who married into a wealthy political American family and rose to fame as a people's champion by lying and deceiving people into believing drugs were the cause of all of society's problems , TBH most of what people think they know about drugs is based on lies and propaganda and perpetrated by Hollywood movies. When they showed you the rats in cages desperately hitting the button for a fix of heroin they didn't show you the other rats who were in a stimulating environment in the same lab who refused the heroin in favour of sugar water . Youtube "reefer madness" for a propaganda film made by the U.S. Government nearly 100 years ago saying how hash fiends and coloured people would rape and kill their own family after one hit , then YouTube "hemp for victory" to see how they changed their stance and encouraged people to grow it for the war effort. Anybody who is genuinely interested in the foundation of this "war on drugs" could do worse than get hold of a copy of "chasing the scream" which was a book released earlier this year chronicling Anslingers life or a copy of "the cult of pharmacology" by DeGrandpree for a rational explanation of drugs, or you could just spend the reast of your lives happily ignorant perpetrating the common drug myths we are all so familiar with as though they are fact when they are actualy fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Correct me if I`m wrong but weren`t they made illegal under the Misuse of Drugs Act of 1971? Morning Glory is illegal now and was made illegal at some time in the 70s certainly. It was banned after a newspaper campaign by possibly the News of the World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) You mean it wasn't Elliott Ness? On another note, there is a monumentally huge church in a village locally, and as a young lad I would wonder why it was so big compared to the size of the tiny village it is in. Some years ago I asked a person whose house I was working at in this village and she told me that it was built by a local businessman in the 1800's sometime off the back of revenue accrued from the opium trade via the East India Trading Co. Whether Jack Sparrow was involved or not I have no idea, and whether it's true or not I have no idea, but it was her ancestors who built it. Edited: Sorry, the question was in response to TS' post; VG posted while I was typing. This subject matter has become so interesting now, it is worthy of further study. What a fascinating topic. Edited June 3, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Morning Glory is illegal now and was made illegal at some time in the 70s certainly. It was banned after a newspaper campaign by possibly the News of the World It was the magic mushrooms I was mainly referring to. In truth I`ve never heard of Morning Glory. It just surprised me that you suggested magic mushrooms were readily available in the 70s as a legal high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 It was the magic mushrooms I was mainly referring to. In truth I`ve never heard of Morning Glory. It just surprised me that you suggested magic mushrooms were readily available in the 70s as a legal high. They are still selling "mushrooms" in Camden today! I think there are many types of fungii with different effects. Wouldn't know from personal experience. Morning Glory (as in Oasis - Whats the Story Morning Glory?) is a garden flower and somebody discovered that buying packets of the seeds from Woolies and smoking them would blow your head off. Word spread and it got banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Scully, it is a hugely interesting subject for all manner of reasons, even for those who have never taken drugs and have no interest in doing so. Sadly the thought police would have it otherwise, according to them we should surrender our firearms now for fear of us having a free thinking insurgency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) when i was at college a lot of the kids used to just go mushroom picking then take them at the college gigs sometimes 2/3 of the attendees were tripping no buying them back in the late 70's, the joys of the countryside and higher education surprises me people seem to think this is a new thing Edited June 3, 2015 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 When we were under legal drinking age we would drink anything to get ******, anything for the effect; Cherry B's, Ponys', literally anything. I would ask some of the lasses I knew of legal age to get me a bottle of whatever from the local off-license and we were drinking in pubs in the village pubs on dance nights at the age of 15. Happy days....I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Does anybody rent that craze in the 70's of putting an Anadin tablet in a can of coke because it "did weird things with your head". Never tried it. I assume it was a wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenduri Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 That`s quite interesting. The ones I`ve seen for sale have tended to be around £8+per gram, only slightly cheaper than skunk at £10 per gram. Nottingham must be cheap for weed if you can buy an eighth at that price. Unless the market has changed you wouldn`t get it for that price around here. As far as i am aware price are about the same as they have always been. I don't take any drugs illegal or otherwise so couldn't give you a buyers perspective but from what my work colleague (one that got mashed up before sorting himself out) had told me and show me on this website its cheaper and easier to obtain and the prices are correct, given that a 1/8th from a dealer isn't a true 3.5g but anything from 2.8g-3.2g depending on the dealer apparently. Does anybody rent that craze in the 70's of putting an Anadin tablet in a can of coke because it "did weird things with your head". Never tried it. I assume it was a wind up. Coca cola makes my irritable and grumpy anyway without the Anadin! It never did agree with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenduri Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) When we were under legal drinking age we would drink anything to get ******, anything for the effect; Cherry B's, Ponys', literally anything. I would ask some of the lasses I knew of legal age to get me a bottle of whatever from the local off-license and we were drinking in pubs in the village pubs on dance nights at the age of 15. Happy days....I think. Happy days. 14/15 in the Shodfriars Snooker hall drinking bitter and playing snooker/pool then 16 onwards in the Carpenters arms, treated well by Pete and Diane the owners. Those were the days when we kept out the way (back room), didn't cause problems and we got served as much as we wanted with the mutual understanding if the Fuzz came we were out the back door and into the back alley out the way! Sadly all you get now days is loud mouthed chavved up louts fighting for fun :( Edited June 3, 2015 by Zenduri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I assume it's still the case but regarding magic mushrooms it was law that harvesting and possession were legal but preparation and consumption were not, presumably to get around the fact if they were growing on your land you couldn't be committing offence but by drying/cooking/smoking them you were in breach of the law - another of those weird circumstances the law creates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 They are still selling "mushrooms" in Camden today! I think there are many types of fungii with different effects. Wouldn't know from personal experience. Morning Glory (as in Oasis - Whats the Story Morning Glory?) is a garden flower and somebody discovered that buying packets of the seeds from Woolies and smoking them would blow your head off. Word spread and it got banned. They shouldn`t be selling them. As of 18 July 2005,[16] both fresh and "prepared" (that is, dried, cooked or made into a tea) psilocybin mushrooms were made illegal in the United Kingdom. Prior to this date, fresh mushrooms were widely available (even in city centre shops), but section 21 of the Drugs Act 2005 made fresh psychedelic mushrooms ("fungi containing psilocybin"), a Class A drug.[17] Prior to these laws being passed, possession and use of psilocybin and psilocin is prohibited. Ah thanks never knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Does anybody rent that craze in the 70's of putting an Anadin tablet in a can of coke because it "did weird things with your head". Never tried it. I assume it was a wind up. I remember some kids at my school getting smashed doing that. Whatever it did to them it was clearly noticable to the teaching staff supervising the school disco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 As far as i am aware price are about the same as they have always been. No, definitely not. In the last 15-20 years the price has probably doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) its a bit of topic i know but what i really want to know is why on earth anyone would spend time and money looking for how much drugs are in the sewers has nobody anything better to do http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33009682 Edited June 4, 2015 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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