scolopax Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I would very much doubt if their mummies and daddies are in a position to request their return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 From the Daily Mirror report: "The Birdsall Estate’s Lord Middleton, who hunted three times last year, denied the cubs were being raised as quarry. Speaking as the landowner, he said: “That’s rubbish. We’re not allowed to hunt foxes with hounds “They’re not being kept for hunting. (But) it’s not illegal to keep foxes.” "Lord Middleton said he “had no idea whatsoever” the cubs were being kept on his land, but added that they were not being mistreated. He said he did not “condone” keeping foxes, and suggested the cubs were being cared for by the Hunt for kind reasons. “I think people have rung up and said, ‘Hey, look I’ve got foxes that needs rescuing, their mother’s dead’, or, ‘I can’t live with them where they are, can you look after them?’ “The Hunt obviously has a supply of meat from farmers etc and it would be able to feed and look after them and then release them back to the wild.” Has Lord Middleton got a screw loose? He has no idea what so even,but in the next sentence suggests the Cubs are being cared for by the Hunt and have a supply of meat from farmers and will be able to look after them and the release them into the wild.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 From the Daily Mirror report: "The Birdsall Estate’s Lord Middleton, who hunted three times last year, denied the cubs were being raised as quarry. Speaking as the landowner, he said: “That’s rubbish. We’re not allowed to hunt foxes with hounds “They’re not being kept for hunting. (But) it’s not illegal to keep foxes.” "Lord Middleton said he “had no idea whatsoever” the cubs were being kept on his land, but added that they were not being mistreated. He said he did not “condone” keeping foxes, and suggested the cubs were being cared for by the Hunt for kind reasons. “I think people have rung up and said, ‘Hey, look I’ve got foxes that needs rescuing, their mother’s dead’, or, ‘I can’t live with them where they are, can you look after them?’ “The Hunt obviously has a supply of meat from farmers etc and it would be able to feed and look after them and then release them back to the wild.” Now dont jump down my throat but that second to last sentence hardly rings true does it ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Now dont jump down my throat but that second to last sentence hardly rings true does it ............ Agreed. Hardly the first place anyone would think of housing orphaned fox cubs (if they were that way inclined) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 The usual Anti "Belief and Thinking" things being true? Made on the publicity basis of "never letting the truth get in the way of a good story" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 You never know,it might have nothing to do with hunting.The Mek told me he saw a woman with a fox on a leader in Seaham a few month back.Might be the new 'in thing' I wonder how good a badger will be at retrieving ? & a pet otter would come in quite handy on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I find it all pretty bizarre and even more unusual are the comments from hunt/land owner not totally denying it. As anside they have bred domesticated foxes in Russia ans they are the next pet for very very wealthy folk. They had a scientific breeding programme constantly breeding the calmiest/tamest foxes together to see how long it would take to breed a domesticated fox, i have forgot how many gens it takes now, National geographic done a story and i think was on tv aswell (i think 7 gens but could be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potshot Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Unbelieveable that LACS thinks anyone is going to fall for this load of rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Unbelieveable that LACS thinks anyone is going to fall for this load of rubbish.You think they planted 16 foxes in a barn and then filmed them before calling the police?? We may not agree with lacs but that is just pure doublethink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 You think they planted 16 foxes in a barn and then filmed them before calling the police?? We may not agree with lacs but that is just pure doublethink. I agree. It is VERY noticeable that the 'denials' from the Hunt and from the landowner were 'carefully phrased'. As has been pointed out, it does not appear that a criminal offence HAS BEEN committed. However it certainly looks like one was being planned. Laws on conspiracy to commit a crime may come into play, depending on how the law has been phrased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Someone needs whipping in and it sure aint the hounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I cannot believe some of the comments on here-we all know what the cubs were doing there and what their destiny was likely to be-I have seen with my own eyes foxes being released prior to the hunt starting and I have also witnessed a local hunt follower trapping foxes for the same purpose albeit a few years back-I am not a great fan of fox hunting but the people that still do it are not doing themselves any favours and any inkling of support from any other branch of field sports are likely to suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Someone needs whipping in and it sure aint the hounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I cannot believe some of the comments on here-we all know what the cubs were doing there and what their destiny was likely to be-I have seen with my own eyes foxes being released prior to the hunt starting and I have also witnessed a local hunt follower trapping foxes for the same purpose albeit a few years back-I am not a great fan of fox hunting but the people that still do it are not doing themselves any favours and any inkling of support from any other branch of field sports are likely to suffer. Having never had any involvement in hunting with hounds, if what you say is true and then it turns out that these were in the barn for that very reason, they have done unrepairable damage to their chances of returning to their old ways. I deplore LACS but even I struggle with any theory that LACS planted them in the barn and filmed them. Doubt the truth whatever it is will ever come out but the publicity will only do damage to any chance of them getting their hunting back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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