A night on the pigs

[Dunkield]

Sorry to derail (nice pig btw) and drip on about it but this came up recently, not on here, someone was quoting "the law" in Croatia, which just doesn't exist.

Of course the correct calibre and bullet construction the best tools to use but that doesn't mean you can't use your stalking rifle if you are sensible and that is all you have.

[Rim Fire]

No worries mate I have learned something new and think there should be a section on this type of thing. Personally I wouldn't shoot a boar with a 243 i wouldn't be comfortable doing it that's why I have the 308 for it and only ever shot two and they didn't argue at all with the boiler room shots but I am a novice.

Thanks i have again put in for a 308 on my renewell which is up on the 17th of this mounth but as yet havent heard anything yet

[Rim Fire]

Sorry to derail (nice pig btw) and drip on about it but this came up recently, not on here, someone was quoting "the law" in Croatia, which just doesn't exist.

Of course the correct calibre and bullet construction the best tools to use but that doesn't mean you can't use your stalking rifle if you are sensible and that is all you have.

Yes i dont know why deffra dont do something about it then you get a clear view of things same as Deer then you know where you stand

Edited September 1, 2015 by Rim Fire

[andrew f]

Thanks i have again put in for a 308 on my renewell which is up on the 17th of this mounth but as yet havent heard anything yet

did they just say no or you couldn't get it signed off by the land owner?

[fortune]

Quite confusing for some people trying to differentiate between the law, which is a legal requirement and a guidance or suggestion.

Yes. I've got a 270 but I know a bloke that has taken a load with a hornet. He learnt his lesson when he dropped one on a track and went back up to the farm to get a Sambron to lift it out but when he got back piggy had recovered and wandered off with a big head ache. After that incident he nips over quick and cuts the throat to bleed them out and he got a 308. I always find it strange when people jump up and down and want to make more regulations and dot and cross everything and get some authority involved at every level and as for suggesting basc get involved all that would end up with is another money making scheme for them and another hoop for us to jump through. The big old boys can be a bit strong on the taste side. The smaller young boar are better and it keeps the family group in a better dynamic than shooting the alpha and then the whole lot go into split up mode. The only trouble about head shooting them is that if the shot is off the jaw can be shot out and the poor animal dies a bad one. Shot placement and a bullet gun combo is the way to go along with knowing the animal in the area.

[Rim Fire]

did they just say no or you couldn't get it signed off by the land owner?

Neither i just havent heard anything i was talking to the land owner today and he said he hasent been intouch with anyone as yet and guess what he out of the country again on the 15th for 2 mths

[Rim Fire]

Yes. I've got a 270 but I know a bloke that has taken a load with a hornet. He learnt his lesson when he dropped one on a track and went back up to the farm to get a Sambron to lift it out but when he got back piggy had recovered and wandered off with a big head ache. After that incident he nips over quick and cuts the throat to bleed them out and he got a 308. I always find it strange when people jump up and down and want to make more regulations and dot and cross everything and get some authority involved at every level and as for suggesting basc get involved all that would end up with is another money making scheme for them and another hoop for us to jump through. The big old boys can be a bit strong on the taste side. The smaller young boar are better and it keeps the family group in a better dynamic than shooting the alpha and then the whole lot go into split up mode. The only trouble about head shooting them is that if the shot is off the jaw can be shot out and the poor animal dies a bad one. Shot placement and a bullet gun combo is the way to go along with knowing the animal in the area.

Like these taken on the same night the big boy went to game dealer

 

Edited September 1, 2015 by Rim Fire

[Underdog]

Yes. I've got a 270 but I know a bloke that has taken a load with a hornet. He learnt his lesson when he dropped one on a track and went back up to the farm to get a Sambron to lift it out but when he got back piggy had recovered and wandered off with a big head ache. After that incident he nips over quick and cuts the throat to bleed them out and he got a 308. I always find it strange when people jump up and down and want to make more regulations and dot and cross everything and get some authority involved at every level and as for suggesting basc get involved all that would end up with is another money making scheme for them and another hoop for us to jump through. The big old boys can be a bit strong on the taste side. The smaller young boar are better and it keeps the family group in a better dynamic than shooting the alpha and then the whole lot go into split up mode. The only trouble about head shooting them is that if the shot is off the jaw can be shot out and the poor animal dies a bad one. Shot placement and a bullet gun combo is the way to go along with knowing the animal in the area.

Well said.

[malkiserow]

Like these taken on the same night the big boy went to game dealer

 

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How much did he weigh?

[Dirty Harry]

A mate of mine was shooting them quite happily with a .243 until the firearms department screwed him over and took "any other legal quarry" off his .243. He had to get a bigger gun to comply with his ticket.

[Dougy]

I think that for driven you definitely need as big as possible. But stalking it's a different game all together, you have time for proper shot placement.

[Scully]

I'll bet they taste wonderful. I'm reading a book leant by a friend which he brought back from N. Zealand, about a bloke and his mates who hunt them on foot with dogs, and kill them by grabbing a back leg and sticking them under the front leg. They then carry them out on their backs, like rucksacks. Interesting stuff for those who're into it.

[Underdog]

A mate of mine was shooting them quite happily with a .243 until the firearms department screwed him over and took "any other legal quarry" off his .243. He had to get a bigger gun to comply with his ticket.

Similar happened to my friend and his .270 for fox. He got a 22-250 and it has resulted in way more wounded, missed and educated fox than old Bertha ever did. A blade of grass and none explosive velocity and bullets never bothered Bertha! Should of kept his mouth shut!

[Rim Fire]

 

How much did he weigh?

He was about at a guess 240lb dead weight the small ones was around 80lb

[Rim Fire]

A mate of mine was shooting them quite happily with a .243 until the firearms department screwed him over and took "any other legal quarry" off his .243. He had to get a bigger gun to comply with his ticket.

i agree i am quite happy to get a 308 but its just not happening for me this is the second time applying for one after the first time trying and they said they need to see the landowner i said well put it on the same ground as my Deer satlking is on and they turnrd around and said its only rated for 243 to me that is a load of **** so the backstop will only stop a 243 and a308 will go through thats when they said i could use a 243 and would not be breaking the law so what am i going to do not use it dont think so i got more right to have a 308 than a lot of shooters who go paid stalking mabe 2 times a season i have proof that there is Boar where i shoot and still cant seem to get one its very frustrating

Edited September 2, 2015 by Rim Fire

[JDog]

I'll bet they taste wonderful. I'm reading a book leant by a friend which he brought back from N. Zealand, about a bloke and his mates who hunt them on foot with dogs, and kill them by grabbing a back leg and sticking them under the front leg. They then carry them out on their backs, like rucksacks. Interesting stuff for those who're into it.

Scully, I have done this. I went out with a group of Maoris who told me what to expect. The dogs were a motley assortment but very clever. I was in at the kill several times but never held the knife.

[Underdog]

i agree i am quite happy to get a 308 but its just not happening for me this is the second time applying for one after the first time trying and they said they need to see the landowner i said well put it on the same ground as my Deer satlking is on and they turnrd around and said its only rated for 243 to me that is a load of **** so the backstop will only stop a 243 and a308 will go through thats when they said i could use a 243 and would not be breaking the law so what am i going to do not use it dont think so i got more right to have a 308 than a lot of shooters who go paid stalking mabe 2 times a season i have proof that there is Boar where i shoot and still cant seem to get one its very frustrating

Yep, the law is an ***.

Try not to be asking! Do be giving lots of reasons why you do need a larger bullet. Foliage is causing problem for the bullet and you are fearful of wounding.

You wish to use a slower and heavier bullet to overcome grasses and such a little better.

Scully, I have done this. I went out with a group of Maoris who told me what to expect. The dogs were a motley assortment but very clever. I was in at the kill several times but never held the knife.

Fancy ago with a spear. Some interesting videos on YouTube.

[WelshMike]

Well done Rimfire, nicely done. Better a nicely placed .243 100 grain then a poorly placed .308 165 grain IMO.

 

Keep up the good work.

[Scully]

Scully, I have done this. I went out with a group of Maoris who told me what to expect. The dogs were a motley assortment but very clever. I was in at the kill several times but never held the knife.

The son in law of the bloke who lent me the book hunts in this way. Like you say, apparently the dogs are all manner of breeds and crosses, but they know their stuff and each wear collars and are tracked by the owners while on the scent.

He said it is common in Dunedin to see 4x4's with hogs strapped to the roof or bonnet going through town. Can you imagine the outcry if that were to happen in the UK?

[andrew f]

They get funny around here if you skin a deer out side in your own back garden or walk up the road with a brace of ducks in hand It baffles me

[Underdog]

The son in law of the bloke who lent me the book hunts in this way. Like you say, apparently the dogs are all manner of breeds and crosses, but they know their stuff and each wear collars and are tracked by the owners while on the scent.

He said it is common in Dunedin to see 4x4's with hogs strapped to the roof or bonnet going through town. Can you imagine the outcry if that were to happen in the UK?

The result of trying to apease antis for years. You won't!

[Rim Fire]

Yep, the law is an ***.

Try not to be asking! Do be giving lots of reasons why you do need a larger bullet. Foliage is causing problem for the bullet and you are fearful of wounding.

You wish to use a slower and heavier bullet to overcome grasses and such a little better.

Fancy ago with a spear. Some interesting videos on YouTube.

Thanks U you want to watch them pointy things are dangerous

Well done Rimfire, nicely done. Better a nicely placed .243 100 grain then a poorly placed .308 165 grain IMO.

 

Keep up the good work.

Thanks Mike

[Rim Fire]

They get funny around here if you skin a deer out side in your own back garden or walk up the road with a brace of ducks in hand It baffles me

Its funny how we shooters try not to dissplease others and are legal in what we do and then you get them with face all covered up and they do what they want

[mel b3]

They get funny around here if you skin a deer out side in your own back garden or walk up the road with a brace of ducks in hand It baffles me

most of my neighbours are so used to me that they dont even look twice when i drag a dead deer across my drive , im not so sure what the young couple that have just moved in next door will think though lol.

[Underdog]

most of my neighbours are so used to me that they dont even look twice when i drag a dead deer across my drive , im not so sure what the young couple that have just moved in next door will think though lol.

Crack on Mel :-)