Goosey666 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Just been cleaning my Beretta, using Napier gun cleaner lube, and noticed there seemed to be a lot of plastic fowling in the barrel, which the cleaner was struggling to remove. So had the idea of warming up the barrels with my blow torch! I don't mean making it really hot, just hot enough to let the plastic soften, I would say around 50 degrees C. I pointed the flame down the barrels, while holding the barrels vertically to allow the heat to rise. Let's face it our guns get hotter than this after a few successive shots so it can't hurt (but please don't go mad!) While the barrels were still hot, it literally just wiped out the plastic without any aggro at all, then carried on cleaning as per normal. This was really easy and saved me time so thought I would share, I guess another, safer option, is a hot air gun maybe?, but not sure how heat would affect the outside of the barrels, prob not good. I would do this straight after shooting, whilst the barrels are still hot, but life isn't always that simple and my barrels cool really quickly. The downside is you do need a blow torch, I'm a heating engineer so this is part of the tool kit. Just a reminder do this away from anything flammable oil etc and be careful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 What temperature does the solder or brasing melt that hold the rib on and barrels together. I would be more tempted to put boiling water down. A chamber brush on a battery drill works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Never failed with boiling water. A blow torch would worry me - so much to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey666 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Guys seriously, I'm not getting the barrels that hot, that it would melt the braze on the rib, lol!!!! PLEASE read my post carefully, if it were melting the material used to hold the rib on to the barrels you've done something seriously wrong! I'm not overly sure how you would be holding on to the barrels at that temp either so good luck with that!!!. 50 degrees C is what I would recommend. Even lead, which is a relatively soft metal melts at around 320 degrees C, and material used for brazing melts at even higher temperatures than that. Not sure of the benefit of using something corosive to metal, such as water and then poring it down the barrels, as then it has to be thoroughly dried and oiled, and imagine that getting into the injectors and injector springs, even more work to get rid of the wet??, but if that's how you do it, then that's cool too. Good to hear your thoughts on this though thanks guys thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 I didn't think you were, but would rather advise caution and risk offence, rather than let you damage the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey666 Posted September 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 Ha, ha you have a very good point Gordon, I guess you have to take into account the band of people that might blow up there kitchen, or worse (hopefully not please). I guess, I forget this is a tool I know how to use safely and effectively, so was just sharing something I found worked well. But please don't do this if your not sure about this sort of thing, or you haven't done the course in, "how not to set light to stuff!" And then get in serious trouble with the Mrs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 A qood squirt of wd40 and a chamber brush will do it no problems. No need to heat anything or use drills or anything silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 On my last stand I always put the bore snake down the barrels to remove most of the plastic with good effect, failing that nail polish remover works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Make up some Ed's red. Look it up online. The man developed it for the US military. Cheap to make, safe and effective. It does it all in one solution. The man should be awarded a decoration of some kind for services to guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Try a bore solvent-something like hopes no9 and a bit of wire wool wrapped around an old bronze bore brush-works every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Clenzoil and a turbo brush works for me. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 y not use the easiest method and use fibre wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Do you know what? 300 years of gun making and no one thought about supplying a blow lamp in a gun cleaning kit I wonder why ? The things people say on here amaze me ,I have spent hours striping my gun and can not find the injectors and springs "Have Beretta ripped me off and not supplied any" ? Deershooter Edited September 20, 2015 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 The things people say on here amaze me ,I have spent hours striping my gun and can not find the injectors and springs "Have Beretta ripped me off and not supplied any" ? Deershooter thay are under the Bonnet behind the barrels silly lol Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Kroil I've used a blowtorch on gun barrels in the past, but only to melt out the dozen+ stuck pellets in airguns when the owner brought them into the shop as they were not working "for some reason"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Solvent cleaner. Ed's red is good I believe. The acetone lifts the plastic fouling. I would not put wire wool in a gun. The little bits that break off get everywhere (including under the ejectors etc.) and each is a little rust trap. Use a brass/phosphor bronze Payne Gallwey pattern brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 if you can get some use Lustran ,its a plastic solvent we clean moulding tools with it at work .itl even shift ABS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Never had any problem with bits of wire wool falling off in my barrels-I will however let my Gunsmith (ex barrel maker for Boss & co.) know of this potential pitfall as he uses the very same method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey666 Posted September 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Do you know what? 300 years of gun making and no one thought about supplying a blow lamp in a gun cleaning kit I wonder why ? The things people say on here amaze me ,I have spent hours striping my gun and can not find the injectors and springs "Have Beretta ripped me off and not supplied any" ? Deershooter They also don't normally supply electric drills, to attach cleaning rods to the end of, but that's a useful tool too sometimes.This is just me, sharing something I've found to work particularly well, without any use of any corrosives, it won't be for everyone. Oh and thanks for the correction to my grammar deershooter, you must have got all A's at school!!! I obviously meant ejectors, however typing on an i-pad with spell checker, which can annoyingly change what you type sometimes Also FYI, 'the gun' has been around for more than 300 years dude. Thanks for your input though fella Edited September 20, 2015 by Goosey666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Also FYI, 'the gun' has been around for more than 300 years dude. You might do well to purchase a tin hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 You might do well to purchase a tin hat. ...or a welding mask for really stubborn fowling - though I've yet to experience a lodged rubber chicken in any of my barrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey666 Posted September 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 You might do well to purchase a tin hat. Ha ha, I hear ya, perhaps I've dared mention something, that I shouldn't? Oh well all good fun, that's what forums are for I guess. ...or a welding mask for really stubborn fowling - though I've yet to experience a lodged rubber chicken in any of my barrels Lol, thank you Saddler I will double check the chicken situation thank you mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 I use legia and a Payne brush.never found any plastic fouling that this does not remove within about fifteen minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Forgive me guys I just don't have time to comment got to go and drape my testicles on the electric fence they itch Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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