spanj Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I think it's true to say most Welsh / Irish / Scotish supporters will support two teams, their own and any team opposing England.... Why? Shall we say cultural differences may be You'd have to be cultured to have a difference Kick and clap! Take it you're a league fan ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think it is for a couple of reasons. The first is the perceived arrogance from the players and coaching staff. Whether it is there or not is up for debate, but some of the players reaction to the Wales defeat (most notably Mike Brown's) demonstrated a lack of sportsmanship and disbelief that they could lose to Wales. The other reason (and probably the main one) is the media. They persistently over - hype teams, individuals and expectations. And it gets very tiresome for anyone not English ie the rest of the planet. I'm not trying to start a row, but you did ask. Signed by an Ulster man,Irish man and someone who spent his early years in Glasgow. (Definitely not English ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) ... Edited October 2, 2015 by Dominicrobed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 taxi for England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Could it be that we are no good The swear filter even filters words that are not swear words I give up Edited October 3, 2015 by deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 the disrespect of putting Wales in the group of death has come back and kicked the English up the XXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Not seen any interviews yet, if there have been any, but let's see if my question (and it was a rhetorical one) should be asked again. The topic heading is possibly a little misleading as I have plenty of views in why English rugby is disliked, most of them supported by the replies to this thread. Shame they are out of "their own" world cup. Hahahhahah. A very happy Welshman!! Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 It wasn't "our own" world cup. We are the host nation. Is that difficult to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 the disrespect of putting Wales in the group of death has come back and kicked the English up the XXX Not England's fault it was the luck of the draw there was no disrespect it could have happened to anyone it would have been good to have seen both Wales & England go through but maby Wales will meet Scotland but if not they will be up against it against the Boks and like Scoland were today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddoakley Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 It wasn't "our own" world cup. We are the host nation. Is that difficult to understand Not difficult for me but when that's the term used in interviews time and time again then it kind of goes some way to explaining the points made in previous comments! Edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty thud Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wot a load of rubbish look foward to next sat grand final Leeds and Wigan were proper rugby played lol ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 As I said the commentary has been so biased it's been laughable, to the point I've watched it with the volume on mute. Arrogant attitude from the England coach, ridiculous apologies post match "we let the fans,nation down. The dressing room won't be a nice place " sp it flipping well should be ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowdie2013 Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 at least they made world cup history - 1st team ever to get pumped out of their own world cup at the group stage. how we laughed!............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 For me the English endured the 60s and 70s the 90s where England's time and by God did they let us know so a little Karmma has come around but some still think they are the dominant northern team, well their not live with it! Second all this 39 mins of running a game rubbish so train for 39 mins is rubbish England looked tired in the closing minutes of that game they where out of gas IMHO that shows they aren't fit enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 the disrespect of putting Wales in the group of death has come back and kicked the English up the XXX disrespect, how so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 There are a lot of lemons on this forum lol get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 had a few beers last night posh boys got hammered Wales put themselves in the group of death perhaps to knock the posh boys out I have always preferred the white rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I go to Twickenham fairly often. The crowd is genuinely welcoming to visiting teams during the Six Nations. The Scots and Welsh are just plain bitter about everything and the plastic Paddies who materialise a little sad. The French are the best visitors and I'll be cheering them on from now on. As for hating English rugby, it's an extension of simply hating London and the Home counties generally. However, we understand your pain at coming to the Big Smoke every other year and being envious of your capital city - it must be tough to go back to some Scottish tenement or 100% unemployed Welsh valley and not be bitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) I go to Twickenham fairly often. The crowd is genuinely welcoming to visiting teams during the Six Nations. The Scots and Welsh are just plain bitter about everything and the plastic Paddies who materialise a little sad. The French are the best visitors and I'll be cheering them on from now on. As for hating English rugby, it's an extension of simply hating London and the Home counties generally. However, we understand your pain at coming to the Big Smoke every other year and being envious of your capital city - it must be tough to go back to some Scottish tenement or 100% unemployed Welsh valley and not be bitter. I visit London fairly regularly and it is indeed a great city, some fantastic architecture, great shops, restaurants and bars, riddled with petty street crime, desperately unfriendly, so many people struggling to pay extortionate housing prices, either mortgage or rent so there are great swathes of the population that just don't go out. It is polluted, crowded, the people ill mannered and all too often horribly arrogant. So when it is time to get back on the plane back to my part of Scotland I am delighted to get home after less than an hour of flying, enjoy the 700 acres of mixed young and mature woodland that borders onto my garden and if I walk beyond that Woodland trust area then I have 25q miles of the Fife regional park to enjoy, all wide open space that I can walk freely and not meet a soul all day. The atmosphere in the admittedly less trendy bars and clubs is much more vibrant because the people are happy and have a few quid in their pockets to spend as they don't have to pay £500/month for a bed under the stairs. The air is fresh, the traffic is light, the night sky is dark, I have 7 award winning beaches within 30mins, within 60 mins I can be in wide open spaces with top quality shooting, fishing and country pursuits. The local produce is absolutely brilliant and it is all cheaper and fresher than I would get in London. If I want the feel of a bigger city I just buy a plane ticket, drive the 40 mins to the airport and i can fly to London and enjoy what it has to offer less than 3 hours after closing the door behind me, but then the very best bit, I get to leave all the hustle and bustle behind. Maybe you're right, maybe I am jealous about the Big Smoke and I just didn't realise it. Edit, I should have added, I go to Murrayfield fairly often too, the last time I was there was a Scotland v England game, England deservedly won, but I had a great time in the bars before the match, chatting to people at the game and in the bars again afterwards. I have never seen any bitterness at all. Edited October 5, 2015 by grrclark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I go to Twickenham fairly often. The crowd is genuinely welcoming to visiting teams during the Six Nations. The Scots and Welsh are just plain bitter about everything and the plastic Paddies who materialise a little sad. The French are the best visitors and I'll be cheering them on from now on. As for hating English rugby, it's an extension of simply hating London and the Home counties generally. However, we understand your pain at coming to the Big Smoke every other year and being envious of your capital city - it must be tough to go back to some Scottish tenement or 100% unemployed Welsh valley and not be bitter. What a load of single fish! Most scots i know and have spoken to all say the same. Its the constant media drivel spouted over and over that ****** evreyone off, even the english fans of rugby and football. Im off to wash the stairs of the closest tenament. Utter tosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I go to Twickenham fairly often. The crowd is genuinely welcoming to visiting teams during the Six Nations. The Scots and Welsh are just plain bitter about everything and the plastic Paddies who materialise a little sad. The French are the best visitors and I'll be cheering them on from now on. As for hating English rugby, it's an extension of simply hating London and the Home counties generally. However, we understand your pain at coming to the Big Smoke every other year and being envious of your capital city - it must be tough to go back to some Scottish tenement or 100% unemployed Welsh valley and not be bitter. Lol like I said, cultural differences... I find it a little odd that you'd support France, it doesn't bother me that you do but I get the feeling it's because Wales Ireland Scotland would support each other before supporting England, and you've decided to take offence towards them for that reason... well some news for you... France too tend to go ABE too Parts of Northern France are very Celtic, some of the Welsh vocabulary is use in their older language, the relationships of these Celtic countries goes back thousands of years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I visit London fairly regularly and it is indeed a great city, some fantastic architecture, great shops, restaurants and bars, riddled with petty street crime, desperately unfriendly, so many people struggling to pay extortionate housing prices, either mortgage or rent so there are great swathes of the population that just don't go out. It is polluted, crowded, the people ill mannered and all too often horribly arrogant. So when it is time to get back on the plane back to my part of Scotland I am delighted to get home after less than an hour of flying, enjoy the 700 acres of mixed young and mature woodland that borders onto my garden and if I walk beyond that Woodland trust area then I have 25q miles of the Fife regional park to enjoy, all wide open space that I can walk freely and not meet a soul all day. The atmosphere in the admittedly less trendy bars and clubs is much more vibrant because the people are happy and have a few quid in their pockets to spend as they don't have to pay £500/month for a bed under the stairs. The air is fresh, the traffic is light, the night sky is dark, I have 7 award winning beaches within 30mins, within 60 mins I can be in wide open spaces with top quality shooting, fishing and country pursuits. The local produce is absolutely brilliant and it is all cheaper and fresher than I would get in London. If I want the feel of a bigger city I just buy a plane ticket, drive the 40 mins to the airport and i can fly to London and enjoy what it has to offer less than 3 hours after closing the door behind me, but then the very best bit, I get to leave all the hustle and bustle behind. Maybe you're right, maybe I am jealous about the Big Smoke and I just didn't realise it. Edit, I should have added, I go to Murrayfield fairly often too, the last time I was there was a Scotland v England game, England deservedly won, but I had a great time in the bars before the match, chatting to people at the game and in the bars again afterwards. I have never seen any bitterness at all. I was going to reply to Flashman, but you have written what I was thnking. In fairness though its best not to feed the troll, he will just come back for more! No maybe that isn't true, he seemed to duck out of my retort on the other thread. Maybe had something to do with his own team being Tam Kite! Good luck supporting France, I think you will find they hate the English more than Scotland, Wales and Ireland combined. Ever heard of the Auld Alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Dont,feed,the,troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willxx Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Wot a load of rubbish look foward to next sat grand final Leeds and Wigan were proper rugby played lol ! Got my tickets, come on Wigan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Got my tickets, come on Wigan!! Me too cant wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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