chrisjpainter Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Appetite for change, are you totally deluded? Sorry, that might have been clearer. I didn't mean that there is an appetite in Brussels (yet). However the very fact that the Far Right party whose roots are in the Nazi Party came within a whisker of power in Austria, and that deals with other parties was the only way French political establishments thwarted the FN shows that ordinary voters in other countries, not just the UK, are extremely dissatisfied with the EU's policy on things like migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 YouGov on the day poll shows remain 52% and leave 48%. Despite much of the rhetoric of the two campaigns if the margin is this tight then every political party needs to recognise that change has to happen with both domestic policy and in how we conduct our relationship with Europe. The governing party of the day simply cannot ignore that half the electorate have massive dissatisfaction with the key campaign issues. DC committed himself to no more than two terms a fair while ago so no change for him, however in this campaign I think Osbourne has ruled himself out from ever becoming a potential PM, I also suspect that he will last out one more cabinet re-shuffle and then be moved. In his own words he has shown himself to be a manipulative and vindictive chancellor (no surprise some may say) and will be an election liability if he continues in post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Oh well looks like the murder of Joe Cox with a birthday celebated by a worldwide vigil a day before the vote hasn't been in vain, wonder who organised that and Dave Kelly's? RIP Joe and I reallly mean that. Show some class man. Fair enough to be disappointed that others don't see the world your way, but that comment is out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 crickey its very close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 crickey its very close No kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 YouGov on the day poll shows remain 52% and leave 48%. Despite much of the rhetoric of the two campaigns if the margin is this tight then every political party needs to recognise that change has to happen with both domestic policy and in how we conduct our relationship with Europe. The governing party of the day simply cannot ignore that half the electorate have massive dissatisfaction with the key campaign issues. DC committed himself to no more than two terms a fair while ago so no change for him, however in this campaign I think Osbourne has ruled himself out from ever becoming a potential PM, I also suspect that he will last out one more cabinet re-shuffle and then be moved. In his own words he has shown himself to be a manipulative and vindictive chancellor (no surprise some may say) and will be an election liability if he continues in post. The problem is that if both major parties are inclined to ignore the electorate, as is likely, where do we go from there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I hate to give anyone who wanted to leave false hope at this early stage of proceedings but my dispondent acceptance of the inevitable defeat, as just stired into quiet reserved optomisum. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 The problem is that if both major parties are inclined to ignore the electorate, as is likely, where do we go from there?? I think that ignoring the electorate is no longer an option. A new chapter is about to be written in British politics whatever way this vote goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I hate to give anyone who wanted to leave false hope at this early stage of proceedings but my dispondent acceptance of the inevitable defeat, as just stired into quiet reserved optomisum. Time will tell. sorry Tony wait till some of the mega voting blocks return at the moment its a few thousand in a few hours it will be hundreds of thousand and remain will surge ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 If it's in or out its called democracy. Which is something the EU is NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Well i am still quietly confident and i must say suprised and at this moment in time very pleased for the uks future, The expected %ages are far stronger for leave than ever anticipated, Hartlepool a massive around 40% stronger for leave there when they expected a much lower figure. Its not as bad as i expected put it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I reckon Nigel Farage might have had a short position regards the value of the Pound when he almost conceded defeat just after the polls closed. If so, he's played a blinder. Edited June 24, 2016 by rjimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 sorry Tony wait till some of the mega voting blocks return at the moment its a few thousand in a few hours it will be hundreds of thousand and remain will surge ahead How's that little prediction going for you fella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 How's that little prediction going for you fella? Too much coolade, but ill be truthfull i though we would still be in, But so wanted out, I would have been gutted if we had still been in, in fact we were ready for calling it a day here. Look now New day and a Britain with a chance to put the great back in, thats got to be a good thing for everyone even the remain camp who will be eating a breakfast of humble pie today, at least some of them will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Feels nice to be on the winning team for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 There is a humble pie van headed down the M1 to sheffield as we speak he will need a hearty breakfast will that lad. and a few others like him might i add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I don't want to hex it, but all I can say is WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Now where is Chrishjh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingDove Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 What a superb day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I don't want to hex it, but all I can say is WOW! I know what you mean but 28 seats left to declare and a 1.2 million lead. It really looks like it`s happened! I wanted it but I thought Project Fear might win out. Well done to all those who had the faith to vote to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Is it now time for those who have shown unpleasant traits on both the 'in' and 'out' threads to resign from PW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Goodbye Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 There is a humble pie van headed down the M1 to sheffield as we speak he will need a hearty breakfast will that lad. and a few others like him might i add. And a magnanmitymobile heading your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 And a magnanmitymobile heading your way. Is that like a Walter Mitty mobile but with more wheels or less i's??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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