Nightmaster?

[wildfowler.250]

Was looking into buying one of these. Is there much difference between the NM 800 and the x searcher? It'll be mainly for rabbits and the odd fox. I was going to go for the red filter or better with white?

 

 

Any suggestions on best options/package to go for would be appreciated. Or best place to buy. Many thanks!

[billytheghillie]

I have the NM800 with a white, red and I.R. pill. I use it with my Yukon photon with the I.R. pill and cannot fault it. I use it with the red pil on my .17HMR and again its excellent. Im sure someone will come on and give you some advice on cheaper torches. As for the x searcher I have not tried that. hope this helps.

[wildfowler.250]

Cheers! Sounds like the red filter would do the job then. Appreciate the info

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, just bought the new TR 38 with better red pil from ludicrous lumins £30, coupled with a 2X lens doubler should do well out 200 yards, . takes one or 2 18650s complete set up £50 ish, you can also buy an extra head lens 38mm to 75mm. my 2 X doubler fits neatly in the 38 head gave up on filter lamps

Edited August 23, 2016 by oldypigeonpopper

[dob]

I have a night master and I also have a version from Clusons , night master is good but for the money the Clusons torch is a very close second and a fraction of the price.

[wildfowler.250]

Cheers guys! Always happy to know about cheaper alternatives!

[Salop Matt]

Contact Evo off here and get one of his lights, fantastic job am confident you will be pleased with.

 

I wouldn't spend NM money again !

Edited August 22, 2016 by salop sniper

[Davyo]

NM is fantastic and reliable although a tad expensive.I've tried various T torches over the years but went back to the NM purley for the performance and reliability.

Edited August 23, 2016 by Davyo

[steve_b_wales]

The X Searcher does have the edge on the 800 owing to it's bigger head. However, it's expensive, and, depending on how much you want to spend, I would look at getting a T50 or T67 with the 'AS' led's. These are very powerful compared to the standard led's that are sold. The 'ir led on the NM800/X Searcher is supposed to be the best though. I have one, but have not compared it to an 'ir' led on my other torches.

[Medic1281]

Has anyone had trouble with the white pill in the nm? Mine is faulty, it seems to have a large shadow in the middle of the beam, the lense is clean. When you focus the beam tight the normal square of light seems more horseshoe shaped, with a dark shadow in the middle. I assume it's the led pill breaking down. Has anyone else had this?

[mick miller]

I'm sorry, I might be a lone voice on this but, the NM torches are the most overrated torches out there. If I were you I would buy a TR50 from ludicrous lumens and put the remaining money toward other shooting equipment.

 

Let's look at the NM 'less than plus points' shall we?

 

• Price - you are joking right?

• Pill - an absolute pain to change - and expensive

• Head - a ridiculous amount of slop when focused means you'll be forever adjusting the elevation if you mount it on a rifle.

• Modes - back it out three turns to access the multi-modes. You're kidding right? Make it MORE sloppy?

• X Searcher? Don't even bother, so heavy the slop is magnified.

• Pressure switch - way too pricey!

 

And the 'actual' plus points

• It has the best lens. That's it. That's the plus. But, it's really not that much better.

 

Well, that's just what I think.

Edited August 23, 2016 by mick miller

[mick miller]

Has anyone had trouble with the white pill in the nm? Mine is faulty, it seems to have a large shadow in the middle of the beam, the lense is clean. When you focus the beam tight the normal square of light seems more horseshoe shaped, with a dark shadow in the middle. I assume it's the led pill breaking down. Has anyone else had this?

 

No, that is the LED. There is a dark spot on the centre of some of the older LEDs, for instance the new AS IR LED no longer has this 'spot', the old ones used to, so you would have to slightly defocus the beam.

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[Medic1281]

No, the problem is a lot worse than it was. When it was focused previously you'd get a very defined square of light. But now it's a hollow square with just the edges of bright light.

[mick miller]

Might be dying then, as you suspect. Never fear! A replacement is a mere £40 minus P&P.. For that you could but the entire torch from Ludicrous Lumens!! #bargaintastic

[Medic1281]

Time to flog it on with the ir and red pill then!!

[mick miller]

I think so. I did the same with the X searcher many moons ago (pun intended). I have a TR torch, never liked the T series very much, and I have to say, it's fantastic value. I have a 38mm and 67mm lens with the new AS pill. It's everything you want without all the terrible flaws. Yes, there is a little slop but not as much and for what it cost and the interchangeability of the lenses it's very much bearable.

[al4x]

You can only say as you find and I've still got one of the first nm800 only use it with the ir pill. It just works as it is meant to totally reliable, the battery is still original and seems to last ages

[Davyo]

You can only say as you find and I've still got one of the first nm800 only use it with the ir pill. It just works as it is meant to totally reliable, the battery is still original and seems to last ages

+1

[martyn2233]

I think so. I did the same with the X searcher many moons ago (pun intended). I have a TR torch, never liked the T series very much, and I have to say, it's fantastic value. I have a 38mm and 67mm lens with the new AS pill. It's everything you want without all the terrible flaws. Yes, there is a little slop but not as much and for what it cost and the interchangeability of the lenses it's very much bearable.

hi do you know the difference between the t /tr versions apart from R lol

Ps I also have 2 xsearcher's yes I like them but you can never have too many torches

[Medic1281]

I thought it was just me that collected torches!!

[Salop Matt]

NM Venom Strike, T38 and T50 here.

But now would like a TR38/TR50 or one of Evo`s lights with a doubler !

 

Nowt wrong in collecting

[mick miller]

hi do you know the difference between the t /tr versions apart from R lol

Ps I also have 2 xsearcher's yes I like them but you can never have too many torches

 

 

The obvious differences are the battery tube - regular size on the TR and the heads or lenses - interchangeable easily on the TR and without the heavy knurled ring and the holes that create spill around the lens.

 

The comments on the Nightmaster batteries, well, they're li-ion. Buy a Panasonic and they last just as long for half the price. They are supposed to last a long time though. The Nightmasters are just a regular Chinese made torch with an almighty mark up.

[Harry Callahan]

I'm sorry, I might be a lone voice on this but, the NM torches are the most overrated torches out there. If I were you I would buy a TR50 from ludicrous lumens and put the remaining money toward other shooting equipment.

 

Let's look at the NM 'less than plus points' shall we?

 

Price - you are joking right?

Pill - an absolute pain to change - and expensive

Head - a ridiculous amount of slop when focused means you'll be forever adjusting the elevation if you mount it on a rifle.

Modes - back it out three turns to access the multi-modes. You're kidding right? Make it MORE sloppy?

X Searcher? Don't even bother, so heavy the slop is magnified.

Pressure switch - way too pricey!

 

And the 'actual' plus points

It has the best lens. That's it. That's the plus. But, it's really not that much better.

 

Well, that's just what I think.

 

 

Huge +1.

[zx10mike]

i personally can see a big build quality difference in the nm800 compared to others .i could be wrong but i'm sure nige simpson in shepshed was starting to sell them with brightness control ??? worth checking out as i found the nm to bright and a built in dimmer would make it a much better purchase.

[Redgum]

I'm sorry, I might be a lone voice on this but, the NM torches are the most overrated torches out there. If I were you I would buy a TR50 from ludicrous lumens and put the remaining money toward other shooting equipment.

 

Let's look at the NM 'less than plus points' shall we?

 

• Price - you are joking right?

• Pill - an absolute pain to change - and expensive

• Head - a ridiculous amount of slop when focused means you'll be forever adjusting the elevation if you mount it on a rifle.

• Modes - back it out three turns to access the multi-modes. You're kidding right? Make it MORE sloppy?

• X Searcher? Don't even bother, so heavy the slop is magnified.

• Pressure switch - way too pricey!

 

And the 'actual' plus points

• It has the best lens. That's it. That's the plus. But, it's really not that much better.

 

Well, that's just what I think.

 

Simple fix for the slop, wrap some ptfe tape around the the thread of the head, did this with mine and its fine now ,even with the large lens.