matone Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) I know of some people who got 32-34g shells loaded to try and win team shoots at charity shoots ! How sad is that ! ( and they did win on occasion) Edited October 17, 2016 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Anyone who thinks upping a load by a few grams is going to magicaly give them a victory all by itself , wont have been experienced enough or compitent enough in the first place to win anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Anyone who thinks upping a load by a few grams is going to magicaly give them a victory all by itself , wont have been experienced enough or compitent enough in the first place to win anyway. 100% Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) No not at all but as someone who has already lost out in a big way from brexit from cancelled contracts for HLS which are paid for by the EU and the way prices are going I am going to lose out even more. As for the risk we have already taken one and its not paid off , daft to take risks when we had a much safer future within the EU. I am no lover of the EU , but Brexit if fine if you can afford it , but I cant. Why is it that most of the pro Brexit voters stoop to abuse anyone who disagrees with them? In contrast when i look at the EU and what it has given this country over the last 50 years, a good standard of living and more important peace in Europe ( apart from the odd minor skirmish ) and we are in the process of chucking that all away because those in favour of brexit do not like sharing power with a partnership of countries in which 90% of the time we get our own way anyway. . I'm delighted to see a stop to all this Euro slush funding. Brussels have been spending it like **** water for years and years. "Brexit is fine if you can afford it " is some statement. It is not any thing to do with abuse, that's a stupid statement. The people decided the time was right to move on to something better. Edited October 17, 2016 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 On big comps your shells are checked at random. If your caught out you are disqualified and slung out. And you have a fair bit of explaining to. Same goes for misfires. Three misfires on the line your disqualified in trap disaplins. Over the yrs there have been lots of top shooter caught out. Also there is an increasing amount of ground that won't allow reloads. Forgive a dunce's question, but isn't it possible just to have all cartridges that are to be used in the competition checked? Surely you're shooting a specific, finite number carts that can be checked, or have I just wildly underestimated the number of cartridges needed for a competition?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Anyone who thinks upping a load by a few grams is going to magicaly give them a victory all by itself , wont have been experienced enough or compitent enough in the first place to win anyway. Would agree,but this was a group of consistent winners ! Gives you an insight into their mindset,doesn`t it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 i thought this was about increased cart prices not cheating with overloads george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 for 1974 years we managed without the eu why not just go back and maybe we might just get somebody here to make a start on new things euro below 1.10 lowest ever been for 6 years they say the stuff sure to go up no two ways about it george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I always thought cartridges got expensive when they broke the 80 pound a thousand or am I getting old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Forgive a dunce's question, but isn't it possible just to have all cartridges that are to be used in the competition checked? Surely you're shooting a specific, finite number carts that can be checked, or have I just wildly underestimated the number of cartridges needed for a competition?? They would only have to show the correct number of factory or correct load carts then use others in the comp. I know some lads who can reload carts and they look exactly like when from the factory,not that they are serious comp shooters. Would shooting 30 or 32 g of whatever shot size actually give you an edge on anything but the longest edge on clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 They would only have to show the correct number of factory or correct load carts then use others in the comp. I know some lads who can reload carts and they look exactly like when from the factory,not that they are serious comp shooters. Would shooting 30 or 32 g of whatever shot size actually give you an edge on anything but the longest edge on clays? Has wider implications relevent to safe distances and shoot boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Rupert that is true and when prices go up it must cost a small fortune to shoot game carts at clays. Even in the same load game carts are usually a £100 a thousand more that the clay equivalents. Funny how you can never get hold of 28g finer wad 6.1/2 shot clay carts in late summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Agreed, we digress now from the original topic, but for a select few perceived edge will trump fiscal penalty.I do not understand the 28g fiber comment, perhaps as i only ever shoot clays. I am not too keen on any price increase,as carts go up will other consumables for operators follow suit resulting in entries increasing. I do wonder how many voices are driven by indignation, bloody shells have shot up again as the reach for the Pilla's from the back of the Bmw,merc or audi.I do grasp that any increase will impact some more than others but without boycotting brands what can we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well I had a pleasant surprise this weekend as usually I pay £160 for my Fiocchi TT1 28g plastic per 1000 and I purchased 1000 from another supplier for £149. As I buy a 1000 per week I think I will try to co-ordinator purchasing from this new supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well I had a pleasant surprise this weekend as usually I pay £160 for my Fiocchi TT1 28g plastic per 1000 and I purchased 1000 from another supplier for £149. As I buy a 1000 per week I think I will try to co-ordinator purchasing from this new supplier. Sounds like a good idea as effectively every 14th week will be FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitclays Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just opened the new price list sent to me by Lyalvale Express ,they have gone up quite a bit as of yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well I had a pleasant surprise this weekend as usually I pay £160 for my Fiocchi TT1 28g plastic per 1000 and I purchased 1000 from another supplier for £149. As I buy a 1000 per week I think I will try to co-ordinator purchasing from this new supplier.Wow! A thousand per week! That's some monthly bill and some serious shooting! I can see how that would become expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Funny, We are not out yet, And the gravy train has kicked in already.. What police Licence rises,Doctors fees if it becomes we have to pay that,?,, And now cartridges,it will knock a lot more shooters on the head.. Christ,I used to pay 50 for licence.etc,etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Dedicated die hards will never give up, They adapt to sittuations make good use of the cards they are delt, would be nice if the organisations and grounds they shoot at could assist rather than hinder people though, there are those like myself who could never pay to shoot clays at that price with the best will in the world. I can see grounds going under, its perhaps a prudent time for those short sighted individuals in the governing bodies of this sport to look at relaxing the rules a little in these troubled times, alowing those resoursefull souls who want to still participate but are unable too spare the finances needed. Its not everyboddy wants to compete at such levels but money as in effect halted any chance now, of those on a budget ever competing. Maybe its a job fore the manopolys and mergers comitee . Just stop buying go wildfowling fishing you watch prices drop then, Brexit or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Dedicated die hards will never give up, They adapt to sittuations make good use of the cards they are delt, would be nice if the organisations and grounds they shoot at could assist rather than hinder people though, there are those like myself who could never pay to shoot clays at that price with the best will in the world. I can see grounds going under, its perhaps a prudent time for those short sighted individuals in the governing bodies of this sport to look at relaxing the rules a little in these troubled times, alowing those resoursefull souls who want to still participate but are unable too spare the finances needed. Its not everyboddy wants to compete at such levels but money as in effect halted any chance now, of those on a budget ever competing. Maybe its a job fore the manopolys and mergers comitee . Just stop buying go wildfowling fishing you watch prices drop then, Brexit or not. Price of Fishing isn't cheap and the tackle and bait is a rip off.No matter what pastime hobby we choose if it involves any form of equipment it gets expensive. Even hill walking ain't cheap these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Well I had a pleasant surprise this weekend as usually I pay £160 for my Fiocchi TT1 28g plastic per 1000 and I purchased 1000 from another supplier for £149. As I buy a 1000 per week I think I will try to co-ordinator purchasing from this new supplier. A thousand a week is going some Sian with the cost of clays and travel, my wallet is groaning just thinking about it That works out with entries and practice clays with travel costs to in excess of £500.00 per week. Edited October 21, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 A thousand a week is going some Sian with the cost of clays and travel, my wallet is groaning just thinking about it That works out with entries and practice clays with travel costs to in excess of £500.00 per week. I suppose it's a priority thing, If it's your hobby and you can afford it then good luck, I would love to be able to shoot that much, I know a father and son who between them must spend that much, Their problem is they like to brag about it at every opportunity, They have only taken up shooting this year and won't miss an opportunity to tell you how much their Perazzi's and Kreighoffs have cost..... Am I jealous?..... Of the amount of time and money they get to spend on clay shooting then yes but I would hope I would handle it a bit better than them bragging wise, but each to their own. I don't smoke/drink so spend what little money I do have on my chosen hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Bragging wont build a score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Bragging wont build a score Oh I know that, you know that but it seems to make them feel better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Bragging wont build a score I hope you did not interpret my comment as bragging, just fact actually. Don't really need to explain myself but I am at an age now where I can please myself, all big monetary responsibilities almost done, just the child's Uni living costs left really. My gun is a inexpensive Beretta SP1 and I love her and won't change her. I take my own sandwiches to shoots and my own tea. Bragging may not build a score but plenty of time shooting might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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