how good was bruce lee

[kody]

I can assure you Lee could not throw a punch 'faster than any boxer', funnily enough that's what boxers specialise in and therfore what they're best at. This is the type of nonsense that gets banded about Bruce Lee and is nothing more than tall tales and myths, that said for an actor he was certainly a talented in martial arts.[/quote

B/s ask suger ray leonard

Go on u tube see for yourself

[winnie&bezza]

Lets just say that if he went on britains got talent, he would win it.

[12gauge82]

 

I can assure you Lee could not throw a punch 'faster than any boxer', funnily enough that's what boxers specialise in and therfore what they're best at. This is the type of nonsense that gets banded about Bruce Lee and is nothing more than tall tales and myths, that said for an actor he was certainly a talented in martial arts.[/quote

B/s ask suger ray leonard

Go on u tube see for yourself

I don't need to, boxing is something I happen to know rather a lot about, having competed at a high level in the amateurs and training with many pros over the years. Bruce Lee was very talented that is not in dispute. Was he the most skilled fighter in the world, the answer is no and is a long long way from fact.

Lets just say that if he went on britains got talent, he would win it.

I'd vote for him 🖒

[Fabhui]

That's not Bruce playing table tennis.

[neil w]

Bruce was the best table tennis player ever.

[12gauge82]

Bruce was the best table tennis player ever.

😂😂😂

[Danger-Mouse]

Got to say impressive. I'm sure someone will be along to tell me he was also the best table tennis player that ever lived in a minute to.

 

Nokia advert apparently.

 

Bruce was the best table tennis player ever.

 

:lol:

[Fabhui]

Bruce was definitely a martial artist first and foremost up until leaving for Hong Kong in 1970 and starting a film career.

Bruce was training like a professional athlete, take a look at his diaries at the hours he was putting in each day, how he was training and what he was doing.

What doesn't help is what is being passed off as Jeet Kune Do these days which is so far removed from what Bruce was training and teaching it's unreal. 95% of what's taught as JKD is a mish mash of any old rubbish just thrown together and most practitioners would get their backsides handed to them by a decent fighter. It's an embarrassment to Bruce's art.

[Winston72]

Got to say impressive. I'm sure someone will be along to tell me he was also the best table tennis player that ever lived in a minute to.

he did win several dance competitions i've heard he was deadly at the cha cha slide

[12gauge82]

Bruce was definitely a martial artist first and foremost up until leaving for Hong Kong in 1970 and starting a film career.

Bruce was training like a professional athlete, take a look at his diaries at the hours he was putting in each day, how he was training and what he was doing.

What doesn't help is what is being passed off as Jeet Kune Do these days which is so far removed from what Bruce was training and teaching it's unreal. 95% of what's taught as JKD is a mish mash of any old rubbish just thrown together and most practitioners would get their backsides handed to them by a decent fighter. It's an embarrassment to Bruce's art.

I'm not disputing anything that is said in your post but, it doesn't matter what fighting style you train in, without the high quality opponents to spar and compete against your never going to match a professional fighter, there's an old saying, bags and boards don't hit back. Lee wouldn't compete saying that his style could not be used in competition. He was one of the world's best self publicised and a talented athlete not the world's best fighter, anyone who has competed seriously will know this.

[Fabhui]

I'm not disputing anything that is said in your post but, it doesn't matter what fighting style you train in, without the high quality opponents to spar and compete against your never going to match a professional fighter, there's an old saying, bags and boards don't hit back. Lee wouldn't compete saying that his style could not be used in competition. He was one of the world's best self publicised and a talented athlete not the world's best fighter, anyone who has competed seriously will know this.

A lot of the best fighters at that time period were coming to Bruce to learn from. He used to put the gear on, spar with them and was able to play with them.

I've competed seriously in Judo and in Muay Thai when I lived in Thailand for 4 years. I've trained for the last 10 years or so in JKD and I'm authorised to teach by my instructor Tommy Carruthers.

We have a difference of opinion but even though I disagree I respect your opinion.

[12gauge82]

We have a difference of opinion but even though I disagree I respect your opinion.

No worries, the world would be a very boring place if everyone thought the same 🖒

[Rewulf]

 

What doesn't help is what is being passed off as Jeet Kune Do these days which is so far removed from what Bruce was training and teaching it's unreal. 95% of what's taught as JKD is a mish mash of any old rubbish just thrown together and most practitioners would get their backsides handed to them by a decent fighter. It's an embarrassment to Bruce's art.

 

From what Ive always been lead to believe ,JKD was designed and expected to be adaptable.

His mantra was always about not following a particular form or style,but making it work the best way for you ,or the particular situation.

That said,my experience in JKD is limited.

[Fabhui]

 

From what Ive always been lead to believe ,JKD was designed and expected to be adaptable.

His mantra was always about not following a particular form or style,but making it work the best way for you ,or the particular situation.

That said,my experience in JKD is limited.

That's what the JKD Concepts crowd would have you believe. A lot of what has been said about the 'philosophy' of Jeet Kune Do etc is down to Dan Inosanto and not Bruce.

Bruce actually wrote in a letter as to what JKD is and that it wasn't a mix of whatever arts you wanted to cobble together.

[Rewulf]

That's what the JKD Concepts crowd would have you believe. A lot of what has been said about the 'philosophy' of Jeet Kune Do etc is down to Dan Inosanto and not Bruce.

Bruce actually wrote in a letter as to what JKD is and that it wasn't a mix of whatever arts you wanted to cobble together.

 

Thanks for clearing that up,I wasnt aware of that.

[winnie&bezza]

There's a Bruce lee documentary on sky arts now.

[coyotemaster]

From what I saw he could read fighters well and adapt to negate their advantage. One his techniques was putting pressure on opponents with a potent offense he used referred to as the straight blast-- right down the opponents center.

I stand corrected.

Edited December 12, 2016 by coyotemaster

[Fabhui]

One his discoveries was putting pressure on opponents with a potent offense he used referred to as the straight blast-- right down the opponents center.

Bruce never discovered it, it's a common technique found in Wing Chun.

He only used this early on in his training and did away with it after his fight with Wong Jack Man. After which he started using 'changing up to changing down'instead of trying to constantly headhunt.

Edited December 11, 2016 by Fabhui

[kody]

I put a post on here about him how fast was he some said not all that fast

And not got the speed of a boxer

Well look at the opening scenes of enter the dragon 3 flurry punches

And not speeder up

Seen a boxer that fast no you havnt have you

[12gauge82]

Seen a boxer that fast no you havnt have you

For the love of God. If he was that good why wasn't he world champion of a fight sports.

[Twistedsanity]

He was an extremely Competent well trained and fit martial artist who became an actor(if you could call what he did acting) and they did indeed have to slow some of his stuff down for the films. Jackie chan is an actor who did martial arts. Bruce was at the top of his game and without doubt was one of the best martial artists to ever appear on the screen. The only other comparable martial artist is Steven segal who was extremely well trained in aikido before he began acting. Chuck norris an actor who competed at karate(world all stars champion) and van damme was a dancer who studied karate and became an actor. I would love to see segal against Lee in a match as they are both equally talented (at least they were before segal became a fat old walrus and Lee snuffed it)

[Scully]

The likes of contemporaries such as Benny the Jet, Bill 'Superfoot' Wallace and Chuck Norris all made names for themselves on the tournament scene, Lee never did. I was a huge fan back in the day however, and probably still am.

He was by some accounts a very formidable street fighter, and no one is doubting his talent or skill, but when all is said and done he was a professional actor, not a professional fighter.

[Danger-Mouse]

He was an extremely Competent well trained and fit martial artist who became an actor(if you could call what he did acting) and they did indeed have to slow some of his stuff down for the films. Jackie chan is an actor who did martial arts. Bruce was at the top of his game and without doubt was one of the best martial artists to ever appear on the screen. The only other comparable martial artist is Steven segal who was extremely well trained in aikido before he began acting. Chuck norris an actor who competed at karate(world all stars champion) and van damme was a dancer who studied karate and became an actor. I would love to see segal against Lee in a match as they are both equally talented (at least they were before segal became a fat old walrus and Lee snuffed it)

 

You missed one. Dolph Lundgren. A 3rd Dan in karate and European champion in 1980-1981. I'd bet on him against all the above.

 

Seagal is a funny one. Undoubtedly extremely skilled at Akido, and I freely admit to having enjoyed his early movies. However the practical application of his chosen style in a real, or even a competitive fight is dubious to say the least.

 

"Do" styles just don't tend to cut it in serious fights. That's why MMA isn't flooded with judokas but does have plenty of ju-jitsu pratitioners and wrestlers. In fact with the notable exception of Ronda Rousey it's difficult to think of any other successful judoka in the UFC. The same goes for Akido, except there aren't any at all, at least to the best of my knowledge.

[Hamster]

This is one of those times where the more I keep my mouth shut the more I learn, thank you people.

[GingerCat]

You do know bjj is kodokan judo? The same techniques, the same everything.

Judo is 5 schools of ju jitsu with some silly techniques removed.

Modern olympic judo is not kodokan judo and not the fighting art to japanese police and military or the british police in the krav maga style home office syllabus that now exists.