Konnie Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is this a series only found the first one on the iplayer. and what day is it on please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Is this a series only found the first one on the iplayer. and what day is it on please Last night (Monday ) What a great history. I have read a couple of books on Blair Mayne and (like many people here) have heard the stories that couldn't be recorded. To see his actions in the context of the unit is fascinating. Brilliant programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Many thanks. Will keep an eye open for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Last night (Monday ) What a great history. I have read a couple of books on Blair Mayne and (like many people here) have heard the stories that couldn't be recorded. To see his actions in the context of the unit is fascinating. Brilliant programme. Yes to be awarded the British armies second highest award for bravery 4 times says it all, plenty think he should have being awarded a VC including the people served with him but it was denied most think due to army politics. World War 2 Awards.com - MAYNE, Robert Blair "Paddy"en.ww2awards.com/person/42139 Maj Gen Sir Robert Laycock, the post-war Chief of Combined Operators, wrote to Col Mayne saying "the appropriate authorities do not really know their job. If they did they would have given you a VC as well". Sir David Stirling, founding father of the SAS, who chose Col Mayne as one of his first recruits, called the decision "a monstrous injustice". A possible explanation was disapproval of his rebellious streak. When he drank, he was wild. At the time, it was reported that George VI inquired why the VC had "so strangely eluded him". Edited February 14, 2017 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustaff Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 my brother was in special forces sadly no longer with us died at 47 joined paras at 16 and progresed through the ranks and did passed selection did many tours of ireland which with infiltration totally did his mind in with pcdo then falklands with mentions in books excursion to hell and green eyed boys then later the yemen conflicts columbia drug smuggers and the gulf wars 1 read sabre squadron by cameron spence then other escapades i could wright a book about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Last episode tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 On now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 good series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Shame it stopped when it did, I have little to no knowledge of what happened to them between end of WW2 and Iranian Embassy would be good to see their memoirs of falklands and the numerous middle east dust ups of my lifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I've got Shame it stopped when it did, I have little to no knowledge of what happened to them between end of WW2 and Iranian Embassy would be good to see their memoirs of falklands and the numerous middle east dust ups of my lifetime I've got a great book called CQB, close quarter battle by Mike Curtis. It follows a guy from the valleys in South Wales to the Falklands through Central America and to the gulf war and Bosnia . A really good read. Edited February 21, 2017 by Pistol p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 The first recipients of the VC in all the forces were from Eire, which was neutral at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) The first recipients of the VC were awarded their medals just after the Crimean War c 1856 when the south of Ireland was firmly part of Great Britain and Ireland. The Republic of Ireland did not come into being until 1949 although it went through a couple of different identitiies before that. The first recipients of the VC may indeed have come from what is now the Irish Republic but they would not have recognised themselves as being described as natives of Eire. In any event, Eire is a term used more by the English than the Irish who largely don`t recognise or acknowledge the name. Edited February 21, 2017 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 The first recipients of the VC were awarded their medals just after the Crimean War c 1856 when the south of Ireland was firmly part of Great Britain and Ireland. The Republic of Ireland did not come into being until 1949 although it went through a couple of different identitiies before that. The first recipients of the VC may indeed have come from what is now the Irish Republic but they would not have recognised themselves as being described as natives of Eire. In any event, Eire is a term used more by the English than the Irish who largely don`t recognise or acknowledge the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 No; those fighting for the 'free state' fought for a republic : ergo 'EIre' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) The thread and program is about their formation and their role in WW2, nothing to do with N/I or the ROI. Edited February 21, 2017 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (And if the Irish don't recognise 'Eire' may I ask how you think they designate the Republic?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Simply mentioning the VCs won by the Irish. Like Brendan Fenucane, for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMK Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/historical-notes-neutral-irish-won-8-second-world-war-vcs-1131002.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Simply mentioning the VCs won by the Irish. Like Brendan Fenucane, for example Category:Irish recipients of the Victoria Cross - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_recipients_of_the_Victoria_Cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (And if the Irish don't recognise 'Eire' may I ask how you think they designate the Republic?) We call it Ireland. Not Eire, not the Republic. Just 'Ireland' We call Northern Ireland 'up North' or 'Northern Ireland'. There are also some less polite terms. I've never heard an Irish person refer to 'Eire'. Eire is the official Irish name for Ireland, and would be used on things like passports and stamps, but if you are speaking Irish it usually ends up taking the form 'Eireann', and as such would be more recognisable to us non native speakers. However, I don't speak Irish and have no interest what so ever in using it so I could be wrong. Aaaaand back on topic - saw the episode last night, first time watching but found it really fascinating. What those guys achieved was incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Lets not discuss the wheres and wherefores of Ireland This thread is about the SAS, Lets keep it to that please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Paddy Maynes final resting place, and a photo taken during WW2. Paddy" Blair Mayne's grave in Movilla graveyard, Newtownards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donegalcharlie Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Paddy had some set of stones on him either way you want to spell Ireland lol Thought it was brave an funny when the padri landed and got handed a pint 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just watched it. Enjoyable mini series with a few facts thrown in that I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) This 5 part series is worth watching about the SAS and the life of one of the most decorated soldier of WW2 Paddy" Blair Mayne. SAS history -legend- part 1 - YouTube Edited February 25, 2017 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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