njc110381 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Hi guys. I'm just interested to know how many shots you all put down your rifles before giving them a real thorough clean? The calibre in relation to the shot count would be handy too as I'd expect that to vary quite a bit. Reason for asking is that I just spent ages cleaning one of mine. I think I left it a bit long but it's never been an issue at that round count in the past with other guns? Mine took me three evenings to get tidy in the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Every time it gets used, never stored dirty, if left for long periods it gets a patch of KROIL put through and a note attached so I don't forget. Don't forget to clean the crown, chamber and locking lug recesses too. Easier to maintain a level of clean than an arbitrary level of dirty, yes first shot is sometimes off but not by that much and cold barrel shots are usually off a little anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 As above, after every use. I clean the carbon residue after every shot , and a deep copper removal every time there is a change in accuracy (.270 win and 7mm Rem Mag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Clean every time after use,crown first then KG1 and brushed followed by KG1and patched until clean which is usually half a dozen even with RL15 which I find a dirty powder, then clean the chamber and locking lugs + rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I have had a bit of an education with my .17 Hornet yesterday on this subject. I clean after every outing when I fire it normally but leaving it to soak with patchout for a couple of hours them swabbing through until the patches come out clean. However accuracy went off last night so I swabbed out with patchout until clean but then gave it a few strokes with a brush to make sure. The amount of **** I got out was amazing, patchout claims patches only but going forward I think I will brush through as well to make sure I get all the **** out. Not sure if this will fix the accuracy issue but I have a suspicion it will as everything else is fine. The .17 is a tiny bore so I have found it tends to cack up quite quickly and this was off the back of heavy use at the PW shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 It depends on the rifle one of mine like to be immaculately to shoot well another some calibre same barrel will shoot no matter what. All mine get a basic clean after each outing then a deep clean every 40-50 rounds my fussy one is deep cleaned every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Mine are cleaned every shot by the next bullet. Edited July 2, 2017 by Red-dot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Mine are cleaned every shot by the next bullet. Same theory as me. Twice a year mine get a squirt of oil and and a brush and get on with it. I use mine more than most here also too I guess... 25-06/ 7mm/ .300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I always dry patch after any shots then bore foam every 10 + It's a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Same theory as me. Twice a year mine get a squirt of oil and and a brush and get on with it. I use mine more than most here also too I guess... 25-06/ 7mm/ .300 How many rounds is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Mine are cleaned every shot by the next bullet. Yep, works for me too. Except if they get wet - Then I will always clean and oil them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Overcleaning is worse than not cleaning (the bore that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scotland Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I think if it is not broken don't try and fix it oil and dry . I have only put a brush through mine three times in five years 243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Same theory as me. 25-06 Me too, like another person who is a mighty quarter bore user... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_fox Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Hmmmm, cleaning... I think I've heard about that. Can't think that it'll catch on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 The 'more barrels are ruined by too much cleaning rather than too little' myth is just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 The 'more barrels are ruined by too much cleaning rather than too little' myth is just that. +1 I really find it hard to see, how a bronze brush being the hardest metal used in cleaning would ruin a barrel through cleaning. The intense heat and friction from a bullet flying out of the barrel at a silly twist rate causes more wear than any cleaning methods that I know of. Saying that though if I go out and shoot it just once or twice a night, I may not clean it. But then it will not be more than a couple of days till its out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 As a point of interest for for those who dont clean that often or find they dont need two what sort of calibres are these on? Do the smaller calibres like .17 and .204 lose accuracy faster than say .243 or is it just if you are lucky to have a non fussy barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Some interesting replies, thanks. With most of my deer guns and low intensity .22's I've found I can get 100+ down them before they start to drop off and need some love. This rifle is a .22-250. Around 40 rounds of 50gr Hornady Superformance down the barrel and it's opening up. The crud I got out of it was unreal! I bore snake the carbon out after shooting but only deep copper clean when it starts to play up. I've recently got a .17 Rem too. I reckon that may behave in a similar manner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Mine are cleaned every shot by the next bullet. my logic to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 How many rounds is that? 25-06 about 400 yearly 7mm about 500 yearly 300 about 600 All at live game, I don't shoot targets unless zeroing or checking scopes. Big calibres are used for driven hunts a lot by me and guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 25-06 about 400 yearly 7mm about 500 yearly 300 about 600 All at live game, I don't shoot targets unless zeroing or checking scopes. Big calibres are used for driven hunts a lot by me and guests. So not really large quantities at all then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) As a point of interest for for those who dont clean that often or find they dont need two what sort of calibres are these on? Do the smaller calibres like .17 and .204 lose accuracy faster than say .243 or is it just if you are lucky to have a non fussy barrel? 17s are a different kettle of fish, I'll get to around 30 shots and it's a complete de-copper joby. More of a carbon clean than a copper, I don't seem to get much showing at all. Edited July 2, 2017 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 So not really large quantities at all then. Enough and more than most especially as it's not at targets but I learnt never argue with a Welshman so i will leave it at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Enough and more than most especially as it's not at targets but I learnt never argue with a Welshman so i will leave it at that But target or game it's the same still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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