Michael Scotland Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I am going to apply for a veriation on my fac for a air rifle could you advise me please. On wether to go for a .22 or 2.5 and your reason for your choice . I think a make or model would help me thank you in advance Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I have an Air Arms in .22 caliber. This suits me fine. There are many other good makes out there. It depends on your budget and if you plan to buy new or second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I am going to apply for a veriation on my fac for a air rifle could you advise me please. On wether to go for a .22 or 2.5 and your reason for your choice . I think a make or model would help me thank you in advance Michael Id go for the 2.5 mate ,superior stopping power, bit of a loopy trajectory though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 25 every time in fac. Bigger pellet, less affected by wind and once power goes up you lose the sub 12 loopy trajectory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I've had FAC air in both .25 and .22. A .22 at around 30 ftlb will do everything you need. 16 grain pellets at 900-950 Fps is ideal Choosing .22 gives a massive choice of pellet and a far greater choice of rifle to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Your choice largely depends on what you want to do with it ?? If your going for land based rabbits and have a large field and safe back stops and need to shoot over long ranges like 75 yds .then a .25 at 45 fpe is great (not a loopy trajectory ) But if you want to take elevated shots ,then a .25 is off the cards (too much power and unsafe fall out ) A .22 would be a better choice but even an 18 grn .22 can carry a lot of extra energy and be a risk again for elevated shots .a lighter 13 -15 grn .22 pellet will help reduce that risk . A .177 fac is a far safer prospect and requires no more extra consideration for elevated shots than does a sub 12 . So really you choice is very dependant on your quarry and location . Ps get .177 .22 and .25 and have the best of all worlds I did To be fair .if i could only chose 1 .it would be the .22 at 25 fpe If only have 2 guns it would be .177 at 16 fpe and .25 at 45 fpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Something with a buddy bottle unless you want 20 shots per fill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I've just got a slot for a .25 FAC Air. This gun looks impressive: The FX Crown : http://hardairmagazine.com/news/iwa-2017-day-one-new-fx-crown-air-rifle-announced/ I have just written to ASI the importer in the UK to find out when it will be available here. These posts might be of interest to you: https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/354093-25-fac-air-rifle/ and https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/356793-22-or-25-fac/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Something with a buddy bottle unless you want 20 shots per fillI have a .22 ultra that does 30 shots at 24 fpe .not too shabby for a very small and light gun .Ps non of my facs have bottles . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I have a .22 ultra that does 30 shots at 24 fpe .not too shabby for a very small and light gun . Ps non of my facs have bottles . That's brilliant good on you. Honestly the internet has come as a shock to me there people out there who think different things to me. WEIRD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 The op . Is asking for advice . Im giving him options. The more relevant information he recives the better his final choice will be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I have a .25 cal Daystate Air Ranger running at around 44-46 ft/lb's. I love it. Great bit of kit. Not 'loopy' regards trajectory at all. And crikey does a .25 pellet hit hard. I shoot into tree's regularly, just depends on how steep an angle you're shooting and knowing the land you're on for back stops. Not sure how many shots i get per fill, but I've never been short of air, so enough for what i need it for. atb James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 AA fac in .22,fantastic rifle and the one we go to if not using the hmr,fac .22 is a lot safer round than a .22lr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just had these 2 with my fac .177 scorpion running at 16 fpe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I have a .25 cal Daystate Air Ranger running at around 44-46 ft/lb's. I love it. Great bit of kit. Not 'loopy' regards trajectory at all. And crikey does a .25 pellet hit hard. I shoot into tree's regularly, just depends on how steep an angle you're shooting and knowing the land you're on for back stops. Not sure how many shots i get per fill, but I've never been short of air, so enough for what i need it for. atb James But noisy as 177HMR though right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 A 25.4 grn .jsb king runs at around 890 fps for 45 fpe . A .17 hmr .runs at around 2600 fps for about 250 fpe . One is sub sonic and hence can be very easily quietened down with a good silencer . The other is running at about mach 2.5 so very super sonic and hence a silencer will do little to reduce the sonic crack the bullet produces out of the gun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 On the other hand the .25 Puffgun is all over by 80 yards whilst the HMR has another 200 yards of bad attitude . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 But noisy as 177HMR though right? Comparing a .25 air rifle to a HMR noise wise is no contest I had a fully shrouded .25 bobcat in FAC and to be honest its was about the same level of noise as a normal moderated air rifle. I would say the noise it more akin to a moderated .22LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 But noisy as 177HMR though right? Nowhere near as noisy as a HMR, but yes, thinking about it, it does have a good crack to it, even with a Hugget moderator. So it's a fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Does it ?wow . Im with zetter .my .25 wildcat is about the same as my sub 12 .177s .very quiet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Nowhere near as noisy as a HMR, but yes, thinking about it, it does have a good crack to it, even with a Hugget moderator. So it's a fair point. Blimey mate that sounds loud. My old Bobcat was really good with the shroud. I did make the mistake of taking it off once to try it which was a mistake as it was a hell of a crack but the shroud made it really quiet and that was without an additional Mod. I had a .25 mod on my ticket and never used it as I never saw the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I've never seen a quiet 45ftp so that's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I can only say having owned one that the shroud from FX was highly effective. As I said I took it off once to check an accuracy issue I was having and promptly regretted it. I solid it to Louis who also posts on here from time to time and he can vouch for the quietness of the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'll have to do a back to back comparison to get a more accurate idea. I may be doing her an injustice, as i may be comparing her to my old sub 12 ft/lb AA S410 which was sold just before i got the Air Ranger. I'm not even sure if mine is 'shrouded' in the full meaning, the outer tube is alloy though, at least up until the steel threaded mod adapter. The seller never mentioned it and i never asked. Must be my age...... I'll get back to you on that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I also have a ticket for an additional silencer for my .25 fac .and havent bothered as i dont need it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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