shootgun Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 I try to cut a long story short, so here are the facts: Couple of days ago i got a phone call from a friend , saying that the FEO is at his adress, taking his shotguns away and revoking his certificate for being involved in a street fight. I won't go into details as what exactly happened, but the FEO was a very nice and helpful chap and gave him the option to store his two very expensive shotguns with another SGC holder, instead of taking them away to the police station and god knows if, when, and in what condition will those guns ever come out again. This is the point where i got the phone call, asking if i can take'em. Less than an hour later, the FEO popped in to drop off the guns, put them on my certificate as ''lent'' and away he went. Now here is the dillema... the guns are on my certificate and in my cabinet but there are not mine, they belong to my mate but legally he can't touch them. How do we go about selling them if he wish to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 they are now your guns, so just sell them and give him the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 As above My uncle passed away and I was asked to sort out his two shotguns. Phone up FEO she put them onto my ticket on the system so they are essentially mine from a firearms point of view. I am now selling them as if they were one of my own guns and will pass the money made onto my Aunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Get a signed letter from said friend stating the permission for you to sell them , just to cover any issues that may arise . Sell them and give him the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Either as above or he accompanies you to an RFD who will take them and put them on sale. That option does have the advantage of taking any responsibility/worry away from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 The only thing i'm worried about is the fact that on my SGC they are entered as ''lent'' so there are noy mine to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Take your mate with you when you sell them and get him to take his ID, also the letter he would have got confirming the revoking of hi ticket. Job done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 The only thing i'm worried about is the fact that on my SGC they are entered as ''lent'' so there are noy mine to sell Are you a BaSC member or similar? If so seek their advice if you have any doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Are you a BaSC member or similar? If so seek their advice if you have any doubts. We both are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Posts #4,5 and 7 have it as you can not sell something that you've been lent - they're not yours. However, is there something that we don't know? It seems to me that the FEO was very lenient in his actions. Is it possible that he's acted as he has because the certificate has been temporarily revoked while investigations into the street fight are in hand and should your friend come out of it smelling of roses it could be re-instated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 I take it you are not expecting your mate to get his sgc back. If not just take your mate and the guns to a rfd he does the deal and you inform the police that the guns have been transferred the the rdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Seems a shame for him to just roll over and accept his revocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted October 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Posts #4,5 and 7 have it as you can not sell something that you've been lent - they're not yours. However, is there something that we don't know? It seems to me that the FEO was very lenient in his actions. Is it possible that he's acted as he has because the certificate has been temporarily revoked while investigations into the street fight are in hand and should your friend come out of it smelling of roses it could be re-instated? This is not the case, there is solid evidence, and as far as i'm aware , his SGC was permanently revoked. I take it you are not expecting your mate to get his sgc back. That is correct Seems a shame for him to just roll over and accept his revocation. As i said, overwhelming evidence forced him to accept the situation. He was in self defence first, but he is a big ex-professional rugby player and things degenerated quickly,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) It seems to me that the FEO was very lenient in his actions. Is it possible that he's acted as he has because the certificate has been temporarily revoked while investigations into the street fight are in hand and should your friend come out of it smelling of roses it could be re-instated? Wymberley - you may well be correct. Sorry - just seen the last post - not the case. I stored a couple of guns for a shooting friend who was going through a bad patch with his ex. She made allegations / insinuations which suggested he should not have the guns. Firearms agreed to let him store his guns at my home, whilst another relative stored his licence. He had access to neither licence nor guns. It eventually got resolved and he now has his licence back. I have to say that this sensible approach was agreed with GMP, who were nothing less than brilliant. Edited October 8, 2017 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) If your not happy with situation,then get FEO to collect.Your mate obviously thinks he's got not a hope in he'll of getting them back.So get him to arrange for a RFD to collect from police station and sell on behalf of revoked cert holder.All he does is when guns are back at police station is tell them RFD will be collecting with a signed declaration from him.Copy of letter also to FEO. Edited October 8, 2017 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 they are now your guns, so just sell them and give him the cash. :hmm: "Lent" grant to (someone) the use of (something) on the understanding that it will be returned: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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