theshootist Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Does anyone have any info on Chubb as a manufacturer of guns? A friend of mine has a cased Chubb boxlock which he may sell. It has "Chubb" inlaid in gold behind the hinge pin and is in beautiful condition. It looks like a webley action but could it have been built by Chubb themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 There was a "CHUBBS of Edgware" in 1948 - 84 - then "CHUBBS LTD" 1986-88 in Amersham, Bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin55 Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 From The Internet Gun Club https://www.internetgunclub.com/database/historicalresult.php?id=67189&country=anycountry&area=&firstname=&surname=chubb&text=¤tpage=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, theshootist said: Does anyone have any info on Chubb as a manufacturer of guns? A friend of mine has a cased Chubb boxlock which he may sell. It has "Chubb" inlaid in gold behind the hinge pin and is in beautiful condition. It looks like a webley action but could it have been built by Chubb themselves? Does it have outstanding lock work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I remember visiting Chubbs in Edgware with my father, probably the early 70s, just a gun shop as I recall. Possible they finished guns to their own specification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Thanks All, I will try and get a photo and put it up here. Its a good looking gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I visited Hellis, Beesley and Watson about 30 years ago and bought (and still have) a Chubbs of Edgware multigauge internal bore micrometer. From memory they owned the Chubb name then and they were in (or near) Amersham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Webley and Scott sold them quite a few in the 70's .Seemed to recall them coming back for colour hardening .Memory must be going as I can not remember if they were just barrels actions or sent out in the white [ thats the complete gun stocked and ready for engraving and finishing] Something has just jogged my memory of a Webely 700 in the white I was asked to price up for finishing that I was told had been bought from Cubbs some years before and sat on by the buyer and then sold on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Chubbs used to be owned by Fred Buller. Also Beesley,Watson etc. He has retired and sold on the Beesley business. But I'm sure someone there can put you in touch with someone who has the records now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Turns out it is indeed a webley 700 finished for Chubbs in Edgware. It's very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yes, unfortunately I would need about 3" added to the stock! So I passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Picture takes me back to a time long ago when English guns were still built , even if an awful of them started life in Webley's factory and ended with anothers name on them , set me wondering just how many I had a hand in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 What sort of production rate did Webley have when you were there Gunman ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Looks a nice enough gun! What sort of money was it? Curiousity not interest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 5 hours ago, matone said: What sort of production rate did Webley have when you were there Gunman ? Over the period I was there ,1968/ 1977 I would reckon the 700 range averaged out at 15 per week as production numbers dropped off in the last few years so if you work on 48 weeks per year X 9 years that comes to 4770 . No way do I claim to have worked on every gun but I must have had a hand in good proportion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 That`s a lot of guns ! Thankyou . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelock133 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 10/12/2017 at 08:42, theshootist said: Does anyone have any info on Chubb as a manufacturer of guns? A friend of mine has a cased Chubb boxlock which he may sell. It has "Chubb" inlaid in gold behind the hinge pin and is in beautiful condition. It looks like a webley action but could it have been built by Chubb themselves? I'm over 2 years late in to this, and I apologise for that! I also haven't read the rest of the replies, so I may well end up apologising for that too! Chubbs of Edgeware was a fishing tackle shop, owned and run by a remarkable man - one Fred Buller - an exceptional fisherman and writer. Fred Buller had most of his guns made in Birmingham by competent outworkers and the better end of his range, came from the workbench of David Dryhurst - that exceptional actioner who is now a director of and still make guns at W.W.Greener. I have a 1970 made sidelock gun, 'Chubbs London' inlet in gold on the legs of the lock plates and on the barrels, fully and heavily scroll engraved retaining all of its original colour, as the gun has never been used. The barrel loop and the headstock are both stamped DJD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 01/01/2018 at 10:37, matone said: What sort of production rate did Webley have when you were there Gunman ? When I started in 1968 it was around 25 a week , this dropped of to 12/15 by 1977 when I left . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Konor Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Gunman said: When I started in 1968 it was around 25 a week , this dropped of to 12/15 by 1977 when I left . Hi Gunman I’ve been told my Cogswell and Harrison Konor 3 inch magnum built in the mid 1950s was made by Webley would that be correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I really dont know the answer to this . Webley did make a variety of guns apart from their normal boxlock/sidelock range . I very much doubt these would have been suitable for magnum loads . A couple of photos of the action especially the top lever would be helpful to say one way or the other . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Gunman said: I really dont know the answer to this . Webley did make a variety of guns apart from their normal boxlock/sidelock range . I very much doubt these would have been suitable for magnum loads . A couple of photos of the action especially the top lever would be helpful to say one way or the other . Hope these can help I’d read that the avant tout was a weaker action and prone to failing at reproof but I was told a lot of Cogswell and Harrison boxlocks were made in Birmingham. I read somewhere that the most modern of the Konor model were made by Webley and that coupled with its 3 inch chambering made me hope that it would be a stronger action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gunman Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 This is one of C & G's own guns ,based on the Edgar Harrison patent .I understand this gun action that was an attempt by C&G to be more "mass produced " in the sense of being more machined and assembled than " built" in the traditional manner . This is quite a nice example , but I have seen some that were very basic and looked it . Cogswell's do have mix reputation overall , but a lot comes down to lack of necessary care and attention , and yes the earlier guns were quite weak , having been designed in the days of black powder and have been know to crack across the bottom of the face especially in proof . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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