old man Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I hear the hog trough is due to be topped up by 1.8%. So pleased that we are still all in it together? Amazing the way it's now proposed regularly by another bunch of cronies to make it seem more acceptable? Zap this one please Zapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, old man said: I hear the hog trough is due to be topped up by 1.8%. So pleased that we are still all in it together? Amazing the way it's now proposed regularly by another bunch of cronies to make it seem more acceptable? Zap this one please Zapp How dare you criticise our Honest ... Hard Working ..... generous Politicians Hmm. Don't forget ... Pigs don't dirty where they Lie or Lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 The real ****** is that no one is surprised! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Hound Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 1.8% is quite reasonable for all the long hours and work they put in to safeguard our interests. I know because I asked one. Did you also know that they get less holidays than teachers (if you factor in the teachers cold weather holidays) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Howling Hound said: 1.8% is quite reasonable for all the long hours and work they put in to safeguard our interests. Thanks for the reminder I must have forgotten. The state of great joy that I experienced at the news just overwhelmed me. Absolutely amazing that the real supporters of society, Nurses and Paramedics et al are treated poorly while the likes of mp's just keep on being rewarded for living 5 *. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Quote Absolutely amazing that the real supporters of society, Nurses and Paramedics et al are treated poorly while the likes of mp's just keep on being rewarded for living 5 *. Yep, "all in this together" & "a society that works for all" still ringing in my ears........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Hound Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Ask any politician and they will say they do it because they care not for the money so put them all on the average national wage. That way if they care enough to increase the living standards of us plebs they get a bonus as a wage rise. Admittedly it wont stop the freebees or backhanders but it may be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 They need a salary increase. If you had 22 weeks holiday, you would need a big salary to pay for all the holiday times. In fact, joking aside, I am pleased to see that the ministerial posts are not taking an increase this time, though of course ministerial pay is on top of their standard MPs pay - think of it as a sort of 'bonus' for a job (not very) well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I don't see JC and his cohorts refusing the rise tho' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, Howling Hound said: Ask any politician and they will say they do it because they care not for the money so put them all on the average national wage. That way if they care enough to increase the living standards of us plebs they get a bonus as a wage rise. Admittedly it wont stop the freebees or backhanders but it may be a start. £77,000 plus, per year basic, for a backbencher, with maybe £250,000 plus a year "expenses" plus a gold plated pension!.......why do you think so many people want to be your MP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, panoma1 said: ......why do you think so many people want to be your MP? Sense of duty ........... .............. to their wallets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Hound Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 If the members of PW are anything to go by, any one who attempts to represent the will of, free thinking, independent minded bunch of old cynics maybe deserves the salary. It must be like hearding cats. I have a mate who truly believes that anyone who shows in interest in going into politics should be put down at birth. With that in mind lets back 12gauge82's suggestion OOWEE for PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wouldn't be so bad if they did some ****** work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Hound Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 We used to have Empires run by Emperors. Then we had Kingdoms run by Kings. Now we have Countries.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, das said: Wouldn't be so bad if they did some ****** work. Oh but they do. They pass laws, and therin lies the problem. They just can't leave things alone. We had an effective check on their law making in the old House of Lords, but Blair's government turned it into an ineffective second chamber filled with political appointees mainly interested in their new titles. Some legislation in the last 25 years must have been a good idea, but I'm struggling to name it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 The trouble to my mind is that if you want people with experience and insight from across the different sectors to be able to bring such insight to parliment you have to pay a wage that means a good enough proportion of them can afford to do it (ie not have an untenable pay drop). Add in the effect of five years off the proffessional boil and the loss of progression in their origional work and the pay needs to be higher again. That said the rise of the professional politician seems to make this view seem good in principal but ultimately irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 14 hours ago, TriBsa said: Oh but they do. They pass laws, and therin lies the problem. They just can't leave things alone. We had an effective check on their law making in the old House of Lords, but Blair's government turned it into an ineffective second chamber filled with political appointees mainly interested in their new titles. Some legislation in the last 25 years must have been a good idea, but I'm struggling to name it. Sorry but have to take you to task there, since when does the passing of a law constitute work? Very strenuous for them it might be, lifting an arm and grunting incomprehensibly? Work no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, old man said: Sorry but have to take you to task there, since when does the passing of a law constitute work? Very strenuous for them it might be, lifting an arm and grunting incomprehensibly? Work no? OK, accepted that it's hardly strenuous. But my point was that if they were completely idle then they would be less dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, TriBsa said: OK, accepted that it's hardly strenuous. But my point was that if they were completely idle then they would be less dangerous. Point accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) I was driving along the M4 towards London about 6.30am with the rising sun in my eyes and I heard on the radio that Nick Clegg was getting a knighthood. I really must stop listening to the news when I am driving in the mornings. 53 minutes ago, TriBsa said: But my point was that if they were completely idle then they would be less dangerous. Some really are completely idle, Corbyn didn't lift a finger for years, bone idle Edited March 5, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: I was driving along the M4 towards London about 6.30am with the rising sun in my eyes and I heard on the radio that Nick Clegg was getting a knighthood. I really must stop listening to the news when I am driving in the mornings. What for? His services to toadying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What for? His services to toadying? Being a total failure springs most readily to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 18 hours ago, Vince Green said: Being a total failure springs most readily to mind We do seem to have a culture of rewarding mediocrity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 You really couldn't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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