Guest Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I’m fairly new to rifle shooting and have just bought my first .22lr. I went for the CZ 455 American and got to say what a piece of kit! However I can’t zero the thing to save my life. I’ve tried bore sighting it but no matter how much I adjust the dials on the scope I can’t get the crosshairs to align on the target that’s visible down the barrel. the clostest I can get is about 3” low and 1/2” to the right at 50yards. Any help as to what I’m doing wrong will be very appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 may be a duff scope try another scope also make sure the barrel is floating and not touching the woodwork or the sling swivel pin if fitted is not touching the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 As above, also is the scope on right? Sounds silly but easy to put on with the dials the wrong way. Hard to give an opinion without seeing the set up. Bet it's something silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I zero by firing a few shots at the target (and start at 25 metres if you are new) and adjust from there. I have never bore sighted. If you are really struggling fetch it here and I will show you. I have plenty of land and will sort your gun/sights out with you. About an hours drive from Preston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, 39TDS said: I zero by firing a few shots at the target (and start at 25 metres if you are new) and adjust from there. I have never bore sighted. If you are really struggling fetch it here and I will show you. I have plenty of land and will sort your gun/sights out with you. About an hours drive from Preston. What a nice offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Did scope and mounts come with the gun or are they ones you have fitted? Are your groupings good and consistent and anywhere near the bore sighting? Give details on how you are adjusting your reticle. We don't know what if any experience you have hence my points, don't mean to be doing you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 hello, i have the same rifle and never had any problem with zero, what scope ? what mounts? i use a MK 1 photon in the winter months and hawke rimfire 4x12x50 through the summer, as saltings mentioned reference floating barrel although mine is a plastic stock i do make sure its not touching, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, GingerCat said: What a nice offer. It's nice to be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, 39TDS said: It's nice to be nice. Sometimes it' good to be bad..... still I hope he or you sort it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i have the same rifle and never had any problem with zero, what scope ? what mounts? i use a MK 1 photon in the winter months and hawke rimfire 4x12x50 through the summer, as saltings mentioned reference floating barrel although mine is a plastic stock i do make sure its not touching, hello, you could also slide a piece of paper under the barrel along the stock to see if it is touching hence a free floating barrel, nice gesture from 39 TDS, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just a thought - the barrel on the 455 is removable isn't it? - just wondering if it's tight or, if the gun is new, maybe a machining error between the barrel/receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 On the limited info available this would appear to be scope/mount related, but as mentioned above check everything. Is the barrel, mounts, scope and moderator secure and fitted correctly? If you have bore sighted and you can't bring the scope over close then it sounds scope/mounts, there is also the possibility mounting dovetail on rifle has been machined off (not very likely but possible). If you are confident everything is secure then try another scope as first choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 39TDS thanks for the offer mate. Might take you up on that if I can’t sort it. The groupings are spot on even at 50yards however they’re all low and to the right The scope came with the setup to answer another question and everything seems solid. I’m taking it back to Malmo guns where I got it to see if they can get to the bottom of it. Cheers lads! Edited April 4, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Thomas Rutlidge said: 39TDS thanks for the offer mate. Might take you up on that if I can’t sort it. The grouping are spot on even at 50yards however they’re all low and to the right The scope came with the setup to answer another question and everything seems solid. I’m taking it back to malmo guns where I got it to see if they can get to the bottom of it. Cheers lads hello, when i got my 455 i tried 4 makes of ammo, eley/winchester/RWS/ CCI , eley were worse with bad grouping winnie and cci ok but RWS came out best, have you tried similar ? each 455 barrel will like different ammo, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Thomas Rutlidge said: 39TDS thanks for the offer mate. Might take you up on that if I can’t sort it. The grouping are spot on even at 50yards however they’re all low and to the right The scope came with the setup to answer another question and everything seems solid. I’m taking it back to malmo guns where I got it to see if they can get to the bottom of it. Cheers lads 4 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, when i got my 455 i tried 4 makes of ammo, eley/winchester/RWS/ CCI , eley were worse with bad grouping winnie and cci ok but RWS came out best, have you tried similar ? each 455 barrel will like different ammo, cheers Ammo selection is certainly important and it is essential to find the best ammo to suit the quarry and rifle, but with the information so far on this I think the MAIN issue certainly lies elseware, especially as he says the groupings are spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 I’ve been using the Winchester subsonic 42grain and the rws subsonic 38grain and both performed well with very similar groupings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 I had two from new one day scope one night scope the one would not zero the crown was damaged on the one the gun shop would not belive me but i put my foot down and made them get a replacment barrel no trouble what so ever after that. I am not saying thats whats wrong with yours but could be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, snow white said: I had two from new one day scope one night scope the one would not zero the crown was damaged on the one the gun shop would not belive me but i put my foot down and made them get a replacment barrel no trouble what so ever after that. I am not saying thats whats wrong with yours but could be worth looking into. His does zero! The grouping is spot on he says, so the zero is just in the wrong place, this is not indicative of a damaged crown which would normally give a spread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 OP your not a leftie are you? Only reason I ask is a shooting buddy is left handed and told how he once mounted a scope up so he could use it left handed. The elevation and windage turrets in effect got swapped over, if you see what I mean, and he couldn't get enough adjustment. Just an idea....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 I know his zero is ok i was just making a comment what happen to one of my guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Has to be scope or mounts surely? The Cz has a narrow scope rail I think, without getting mine out of the cabinet. Have you the correct mounts otherwise it might just be effectively offset. I wouldn’t trust the fact the scope came with it as it might have just been thrown on for the sale from a less suitable direction. Just a thought. Unless someone used the barrel as a crow bar Edited April 4, 2018 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 This is the rifle. The scope did come attached as part of a package. Everything seems solid but I’m by no means an expert when it comes to rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 My money is still on the scope or mounts. It may be worth taking the mod off to try, but as you say you have excellent grouping that seems an unlikely cause, but best to start eliminating. Do you have another scope/mounts to try? What is the scope, and on a sort of side issue, the mounts seem quite high, always best to keep the scope as close to the barrel as sensible. If you have just got this and it came as a package why not just take it back and ask the RFD to sort it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, Thomas Rutlidge said: This is the rifle. The scope did come attached as part of a package. Everything seems solid but I’m by no means an expert when it comes to rifles. Have you been zeroing at the elephants on the wall? If so your miles too high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Just wild card, i assume the bipod mounting stud/screw isn't through the forend and putting pressure on the barrel? I agree with Dekers, the mounts look uneccesarily high, although again agreeing, should give you the problem you're having? Has the scope parallax adjustment? Are the mounts definitely a pair? And are the mount to rifle screws on the same side? Edited April 4, 2018 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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