Scully Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, motty said: As I have written countless times over these pages, the 1/2 choke "thing" is not correct. You can use far tighter without issue. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Motty is right lots ******** written about steel shot and chokes took me long time to realise this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 31/01/2019 at 19:10, motty said: That is incorrect. as a general rule how is that incorrect? I've just had a quick look and other than old live pigeon guns nigh on everything else with a 3" inch chamber is expect to be steel proofed I'm happy to be informed otherwise but without going into specific makes and models I imagine my statement is pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, keeper96 said: as a general rule how is that incorrect? I've just had a quick look and other than old live pigeon guns nigh on everything else with a 3" inch chamber is expect to be steel proofed I'm happy to be informed otherwise but without going into specific makes and models I imagine my statement is pretty accurate. No, your statement is completely inaccurate. There will be many thousands of guns with 3" chambers that are not proofed for steel shot. I own one, for starters - a 2005 Beretta Silver pigeon IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, keeper96 said: as a general rule how is that incorrect? I've just had a quick look and other than old live pigeon guns nigh on everything else with a 3" inch chamber is expect to be steel proofed I'm happy to be informed otherwise but without going into specific makes and models I imagine my statement is pretty accurate. Any of the Spanish,Turkish etc made 3" guns from any time up until the 2000s, alot of American guns, they didn't adopt steel proofing until recently. In fact most guns made up until the last 10 years or so, won't be steel proofed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 well I stand corrected then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, keeper96 said: well I stand corrected then Soon you will be correct; it's just that you're ahaead of your time at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 04/02/2019 at 10:35, wymberley said: Soon you will be correct; it's just that you're ahaead of your time at the moment. haha that is very true! it's just that in my cabinet of 11 guns everything with a 3" chamber is steel proofed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 hours ago, keeper96 said: haha that is very true! it's just that in my cabinet of 11 guns everything with a 3" chamber is steel proofed. I thought your general rule a few days ago was a good leading light, however, it looks like everyone is getting educated with this topic but may I ask how come wymberley says your way ahead of your time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeper96 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, mgsontour said: I thought your general rule a few days ago was a good leading light, however, it looks like everyone is getting educated with this topic but may I ask how come wymberley says your way ahead of your time? I'm assuming he says that because most new guns with 3" chambers made these days do have steel proof so in 20 years it would be accurate to say that 3" chamber means steel proof on most guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, keeper96 said: I'm assuming he says that because most new guns with 3" chambers made these days do have steel proof so in 20 years it would be accurate to say that 3" chamber means steel proof on most guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 30/01/2019 at 20:10, Lloyd90 said: I was under the impression that it’s fine to use a tight choke (over half) as long as the gun is proofed for it? My rem 11-87 is 3” chamber and I got a full choke - the choke says “lead / steel proof” I'm the other way around. My Hatsan chokes for 3/4 and full say on them *not for steel use* (or similar wording) on them. Lots of urban myths and confusion! BTW - I rarely use steel so it's a moot point for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I can’t remember what year my SP 687 is - I’m sure it’s 2004 or 2005 🤔🤔 Im also sure it’s got a 3” chamber and proofed for steel! Will have to check when home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 31/01/2019 at 19:48, motty said: As I have written countless times over these pages, the 1/2 choke "thing" is not correct. You can use far tighter without issue. My Fabarm S/A 3" has numerous chokes and all above 1/2 are marked as not for use with steel shot, I would like to use full ! 1 hour ago, hedge said: I'm the other way around. My Hatsan chokes for 3/4 and full say on them *not for steel use* (or similar wording) on them. Lots of urban myths and confusion! BTW - I rarely use steel so it's a moot point for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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