sharpeshooter60 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 hi all,any one got one that can give me abit of info on what to look out for ?cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Petrol stations I'd imagine 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpeshooter60 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tford said: Petrol stations I'd imagine 😁 that's what I was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, sharpeshooter60 said: hi all,any one got one that can give me a bit of info on what to look out for ?cheers Yes, something else! Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpeshooter60 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, VicW said: Yes, something else! Vic. nice motor though its only got 80.000 on clock with full land rover service,but its a 1998 so I don't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Run..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Tford said: Petrol stations I'd imagine 😁 😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I could only imagine the fuel bill on that monster. I bet it's sub 15 mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Clarkson took one on a short shopping trip and the school run and it returned 9 to the gallon. Presumably the road tax is about £5000 per year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 15 hours ago, sharpeshooter60 said: nice motor though its only got 80.000 on clock with full land rover service,but its a 1998 so I don't know? It does not surprise me it’s only got 80,000 on the clock when it only does 9 mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Put it on LPG and you might get 20mpg equivalent money wise. I did casually mention I was looking for a similar vehicle to my local Land Rover engineer and it took him about 10 minutes to come back down. At that I decided to stick with my LR90 and the 3.9 V8 on LPG which on average gives me 25mpg just running about and a bit of off road, to around 33-34 on a longish run, easy on the pedal. That's money wise of course. I have a Jag Xtype 2.5 V6 AWD estate which is a bit thristy but we only use it for high days and holidays, only cost me £4000 with 50,000 on the clock and it is a joy to drive. It really is all down to how many miles you are going to do in it and will be your every day transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Rust is the main thing to look for. They rot badly, chassis the out riggers the doors boot bulkheads. Basically any part that's metal will rust inside out. Check if it's been rustproofed from new. If you look online there are lots of videos on what and where to check. Mechanically if it's full history from LR you got nothing to worry about. After buying.g the one thing you will.look for is a hole in the fuel tank or leak in fuel system as you won't believe that a 4.6 petrol can drink more than a 7 liter yank V8. Known two people who had them for a short time, one named it the Gulper. Edited February 11, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 electrical gremlins, P38s were plagued with them. Also air suspension make sure it does what its meant to, the bags themselves are cheap to replace but compressors can get pricey if they are worn out. I wouldnt have one personally but there are plenty about with very high mileages so the underpinnings are up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Love to know how many naysayers have actually owned one? And how many have their experience from "old Bob" down the Duck and Whistle? The Air suspension compressor is around £300 and you can fit it in minutes - they last around 80k. Exhausts are stainless steel and some body panels are Aluminium - no rust there then. Big unstressed engine can run for decades but the secret is to service regularly and predict maintenance issues before they become a potential breakdown. Consumption is something you get used to but mine only does 18mpg and I honestly don't worry about it - Tax is about £300 / year. Best advice is to get a local non franchised LR specialist to give it the once over - don't ever go to LR themselves unless you want to be fleeced. Buy spares and service parts yourself (Opie oils are very good btw) and then pay cash to have them fitted although a basic Oil service is easy enough to do yourself - my L322 uses just under 9ltrs of synthetic and I can do an Oil/filter/Air Filter change for less than £100. If you buy from a Dealer, as always, pay with your credit card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Bruno, you had the rotting issues where aluminium alloy meets metal and the rotting tailgate. Yours must be well undersealed to have lasted. I wanted one for few years , even looked at the diesel engines but the Italian one has seperate heads and is prone to problems the BMW engines one is ok but not much saving to petrol mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Mines 14 years old Figgy and there is no rust anywhere - underneath looks pretty solid and even the wheel arch area hidden behind the rear doors are unblemished. The l322 tends to drip oil so I'm guessing that a fine mist of that keeps the underneath good! The 02-05 models , when BMW owned LR are regarded as having the best paintwork so that also may have helped. I read all the horror story's about RR ownership but after 18 months of ownership I have had no issues (bar one that was found the day I bought her and the repair bill picked up by my credit card company) and it's like nothing else to drive - the 4.4 V8 will run at, er, 70 mph all day with no sound but a faint hum - after about 5 minutes the car assumes it's on a Motorway and lowers itself down where the ride is like a magic carpet - steady 70 gets you 25mpg, heated seats are like armchairs - even the steering wheel is heated. Saturday before last some daft woman in a merc. backed into me at a petrol station - she's going to need a new rear bumper and boot lid - my front number plate is "crazed" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 15 hours ago, bruno22rf said: my L322 the OP is looking at a P38 different beast to your L322. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, I'm aware of that Tom - but people tend to treat all RR's as the same beast. Rarely do you read "ahh - the l322 was a good car but the L405 was terrible, don't even get me started on the P38" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Yes, I'm aware of that Tom - but people tend to treat all RR's as the same beast. Rarely do you read "ahh - the l322 was a good car but the L405 was terrible, don't even get me started on the P38" Sorry i am confused, the OP is asking about a P38 and you have sung the praises of your L322 which apart from the Range Rover badge has little relation to and the issues the OP might encounter. So you are treating them as the same beast saying he should buy the P38 because your L322 has turned out decent? The L322 although expensive to run is still generally considered a decent car, the P38 is considered a complete *** by pretty much everyone. I know of two Indy garages which wont sell them, any they get in go straight to auction or scrap and never on the forecourt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Everything I said in my initial reply applies to the P38 as much as the L322 - ask 100 people about RR and 95% will say "unreliable and thirsty as well as expensive" but I doubt that the vast majority have ever owned one. Only my opinion of course but I have had virtually zero reliability issues with mine and do not find it particularly expensive to run. I do have 3 other cars though so potential break downs are not a major concern and if the RR blows itself into a million pieces tomorrow then I would recoup most of what I paid for it selling it for spares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Everything I said in my initial reply applies to the P38 as much as the L322 - ask 100 people about RR and 95% will say "unreliable and thirsty as well as expensive" but I doubt that the vast majority have ever owned one. Only my opinion of course but I have had virtually zero reliability issues with mine and do not find it particularly expensive to run. I do have 3 other cars though so potential break downs are not a major concern and if the RR blows itself into a million pieces tomorrow then I would recoup most of what I paid for it selling it for spares. Have to agree. I have a friend who has a P38 and has had it since new. It is now his shooting/fishing car and ha always been well looked after and that was the reason I looked at getting one until my independant Land Rover Guru and anyone who knows George in Atherstone knows there is very little he doesn't know about Land Rovers of all kinds. His reaction and advice meant I now have a Jaguar X type AWD estate instead for high days and holidays. My 30yr old Landie fitted with 3.9 V8, LT85 box and Classic Range Rover rear axle/disc brakes is still working hard and taking me places many 4x4s would blanch at, but I still get the occasional Jap truck driver make nasty remarks. IF you see a really good example and have had it thoroughly checked out and that is what you desire then go ahead, but DO NOT go to a Land Rover Dealer/Outlet to get your work done. I have my servicing done by my local mechanic and in most cases I buy my spares and supply them to him. A full service and a few replacements rarely cost me much more than £200 AND I know it has been done correctly. On edit.... funny this came up because I just did two runs to check what mileage I was getting. I did one back home dodging about up and down fields in the wood etc etc and on the LPG returned 14.5 mpg which equates to about 29mpg money wise. I then had a long run across to Stamford yesterday and purposely took it easy on the pedal although I did a little bit off road and admit I had the engine running for 5 mins stationary to warm me up after 4hrs in a high seat...jessh it was cold. and it managed 15.5mpg so 31mpg money wise give or take. Now I don't think that is bad at all nd can live with it. Edited February 13, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Now there's a coincidence - I have an X type as well - 3ltr v6, one of the early ones in almost pristine condition . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Now there's a coincidence - I have an X type as well - 3ltr v6, one of the early ones in almost pristine condition . Nice motor, I looked hard for one of the rare V8s but the few I found had not been treated well. The one I have/had for three years now has still only done 71000. Paid £4000 for it on 56000, one lady owner with full and I mean full service details by the same village garage, little notations pointing out things that may need looking at before the next service etc. Edited February 14, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpeshooter60 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 thanks all didn't buy it in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 So what have you bought and why didn't you buy the Gulper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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