Debbie BASC Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 BASC advice on Section Four of the Wildlife and Countryside Act Apr 25, 2019 BASC has been asked if it is possible to manage pest species under Section Four of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 when Natural England (NE) withdraws the general licences at one minute to midnight tonight (THURSDAY). BASC took urgent legal advice which is published here: https://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/section-four-guidance.pdf In summary, the advice is that anyone claiming to act under Section Four is at legal risk and BASC’s guidance is that those controlling pests should apply for an individual licence from NE. We will be linking to guidance on how to do this later today when NE makes the information available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Thanks Debbie, I reckon the queue for the licences will be long and the wait will be drawn out. Loads of us have registered so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Debbie BASC said: BASC advice on Section Four of the Wildlife and Countryside Act Apr 25, 2019 BASC has been asked if it is possible to manage pest species under Section Four of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 when Natural England (NE) withdraws the general licences at one minute to midnight tonight (THURSDAY). BASC took urgent legal advice which is published here: https://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/section-four-guidance.pdf In summary, the advice is that anyone claiming to act under Section Four is at legal risk and BASC’s guidance is that those controlling pests should apply for an individual licence from NE. We will be linking to guidance on how to do this later today when NE makes the information available. Hi Debbie, These forms, will they need filling out for each farm you shoot at, or will one cover all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Thanks Debbie, I reckon the queue for the licences will be long and the wait will be drawn out. Loads of us have registered so far. Have you a link to the registration. Found loads of info on their website but nothing that fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, reggiegun said: Hi Debbie, These forms, will they need filling out for each farm you shoot at, or will one cover all? Debbie doesn’t do conversation. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, rimfire4969 said: Have you a link to the registration. Found loads of info on their website but nothing that fits the bill. Try here; https://www.gov.uk/guidance/protected-species-licences-register-to-apply-for-and-manage-licences-online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Try here; https://www.gov.uk/guidance/protected-species-licences-register-to-apply-for-and-manage-licences-online Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Is this covering wales as well on Monday I read that wales is not effected by this ban can someone please clarify as I cannot get through to Basc. Thank you for looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, snow white said: Is this covering wales as well on Monday I read that wales is not effected by this ban can someone please clarify as I cannot get through to Basc. Thank you for looking No it doesn't cover wales yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Thanks Wyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, Scully said: Debbie doesn’t do conversation. 😂 Perfect girl for a night out 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbriar Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Try here; https://www.gov.uk/guidance/protected-species-licences-register-to-apply-for-and-manage-licences-online That link refers to "protected species". Will it cover the GL species ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 The NE CWM portal does not seem to be active for applying for new licences , it just hangs , so that will be useful later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: That link refers to "protected species". Will it cover the GL species ? All birds are protected and with the demise of the GL there will no longer be what you describe as GL species. 4 minutes ago, TR1 said: The NE CWM portal does not seem to be active for applying for new licences , it just hangs , so that will be useful later. You need to register and once your registration has been accepted, you will be able to apply for a license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 I have registered , got my number and confirmed email. Signed in can see profile but that’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, TR1 said: I have registered , got my number and confirmed email. Signed in can see profile but that’s it. More than I have got so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, rimfire4969 said: More than I have got so far. I can't get to register.. Got to the CWM page and its blank with just username and password box for sign in.. This is a bloody nightmare. My shotgun listed as flock control and bird control is useless right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: I can't get to register.. Got to the CWM page and its blank with just username and password boxfor sign in.. This is a bloody nightmare. My shotgun listed as flock control and bird control is useless right now. Click on the tab that says customer registration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, CharlieT said: Click on the tab that says customer registration. Wasnt there.. Refreshed the page 5 times and bingo. Registered but no confirmation email yet.... And then 5 days until its done, then confirm i am a real person, then they'll let me apply. So thats possibly a month or more before anything happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ShootingEgg said: Wasnt there.. Refreshed the page 5 times and bingo. Registered but no confirmation email yet.... And then 5 days until its done, then confirm i am a real person, then they'll let me apply. So thats possibly a month or more before anything happens And as so many people will be registering I strongly suspect 5 days will turn in 55. Edited April 25, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Capitalisation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: And as so many people will be registering I strongly suspect 5 days will turn in 55. I do not doubt that at all. I spoke to one veg grower yest, he is at a loss as what he can do, i sit in the growing field, there are static scare crows, timed inflatable ones and the pigeons just ignore them when the spring up. He will have yo run round like a loon to scare them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: I do not doubt that at all. I spoke to one veg grower yest, he is at a loss as what he can do, i sit in the growing field, there are static scare crows, timed inflatable ones and the pigeons just ignore them when the spring up. He will have yo run round like a loon to scare them off Well let's hope it all gets sorted out quickly, there is meant to be further guidance released later today and new General Licences by the 29th of this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 hello, just done my registration, got a reference number, it now states i will be posted a form to fill in by 5 working days, anyone know on this form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, just done my registration, got a reference number, it now states i will be posted a form to fill in by 5 working days, anyone know on this form Thats what we all get. Not even got an email confirming the form has been accepted.. Its a complete cock up and a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Reading the latest info you can apply at 5 pm today for a temporary licence. At least that’s how I have read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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