bruno22rf Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Maybe the BASC will pay for our Doc's fee's - after all they are sitting on several million pounds worth of subscriptions. Cant help but laugh at the Police justifying this new hurdle by including the fact that it will speed up current applications - this I've got to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, so health tourists can come in to the the UK and get free NHS and we in the UK have to pay our N I and taxes to pay for it on top of that GP s are going to charge patients those fees as well as the medical assessment letters for FAC/shotgun applications and renewal of £133 if that is what has been stated, as a side note getting a GP appointment is bad enough in most doctors surgeries, Correct, just beyond me as to why we are expected to support the healthcare of the world? The BMA have obviously just decided that this new policy covertly provides all of them with a continuing "nice little earner?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, old man said: Correct, just beyond me as to why we are expected to support the healthcare of the world? The BMA have obviously just decided that this new policy covertly provides all of them with a continuing "nice little earner?" hello, yes it makes me !!!!!!!! when on the local news a young brave little boy needs treatment not given on the NHS so the staff at his hospital are raising the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Despite both my wife and I having a few years left on our certs think I’ll ring the docs and see what they say. Problem is there the only surgery in our village! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo22 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 There is an article in this months sporting shooter by the CE of countryside alliance saying that the shooting organisations are working with the home office to try to solve the problem. Don't know the truth but his article is called " light at the end of the tunnel" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I predict that the requirement to provide a confirmatory GP's letter at a set charge to the applicant will be agreed, the government will support the police getting what they want (further regulation) the GMC will support the GP's getting what they want (money!) the shooting representatives will agree it because they ain't got a choice.......and we the shooters will foot the bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, panoma1 said: I predict that the requirement to provide a confirmatory GP's letter at a set charge to the applicant will be agreed, the government will support the police getting what they want (further regulation) the GMC will support the GP's getting what they want (money!) the shooting representatives will agree it because they ain't got a choice.......and we the shooters will foot the bill! Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruit Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just come across this thread via Google. Had my renewal recently. Disclosed a medical condition and now have a separate letter from police stating I need to request further information from my GP. They helpfully provide a standard letter I can sign telling the doctor “if you require a fee for this I am happy to pay for this”. How charming! My concerns with this relate to the question on the renewal form stating to must disclose if you have EVER been diagnosed. So even it was 30 years ago and well in the past you’d still be considered “tainted”. I’m very surprised there isn’t a “drop off” period of 5/10years or so when it’s considered no longer an issue. A bit like a criminal conviction can be removed from your record after a period of time as such. Once “guilty” always guilty! To “sentence” you to providing a medical report every 5 years at renewal forever more seems rather discriminatory. This new system seems designed to equalise that situation by putting everyone in the same boat...everyone considered guilty until proven innocent by a paid for report. Funny old world! I also question whether doctors are best placed to advise on some conditions noted too....but that is another matter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 This whole business is BS. When a previously convicted criminal gets the OK from a qualified psychiatrist the day before he goes on to stab a guy to death on a train, seems to me the Old Bill is expecting a bit to much from a General Practitioner, who in all fairness isn't qualified like a professional psychiatrist is, and as it is they can still get it badly wrong. As I have said before, all the shooting organisations should be working flat out on this. They can work together, if pushed as has been seen with the GL fiasco. This BS is just another excuse to try and make the public safer by removing firearms from what is arguably the most law abiding section of the community, by stealth. We who recognise the privilege of possessing a SGC/FAC are not deliberately going to lose them. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7241017/Man-GUILTY-murdering-father-stabbed-son-Surrey-train.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 13, 2019 Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Your local GP isn’t expected to judge, assess or assert that anyone is mentally stable enough to be granted a SGC/FAC. All they are requested to do is inform the rozzers of any medical history or ailments which may be of concern to licensing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 WELL the perception of joe public is that anyone who shoots is loaded😉 the way things are going a shooter will have to be well off just to get a licence. Doctors just don't have enough time to see you but as always if money is involved they make time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 12:44, Grapefruit said: My concerns with this relate to the question on the renewal form stating to must disclose if you have EVER been diagnosed. So even it was 30 years ago and well in the past you’d still be considered “tainted”. I’m very surprised there isn’t a “drop off” period of 5/10years or so when it’s considered no longer an issue. A bit like a criminal conviction can be removed from your record after a period of time as such. Once “guilty” always guilty! To “sentence” you to providing a medical report every 5 years at renewal forever more seems rather discriminatory. Looks like it's OK to wipe the record clean if you've committed murder or are a sex offender: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/criminal-record-disclose-conviction-wipe-erase-four-years-david-gauke-a9003811.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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