Gordon R Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 If he comes out unscathed, I suspect he will regard that as a price worth paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, henry d said: So why is it not happening here? Maybe social workers and police arent as 'right on' up there , as they were in Rochdale ,Rotherham ect ? 19 minutes ago, henry d said: Ok, after a good search I can find only one report (apart from far right groups) of grooming in Scotland Strangely enough , it was the far right groups who first bought the 'grooming scandal' to the fore. For which they were largely derided, then 10 years on, everything they said was vindicated, but lets not talk about that because they are racist fascist scum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Quote Ok, after a good search I can find only one report (apart from far right groups) of grooming in Scotland After a very swift search:- https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795387/unacceptable-legal-delays-ethnic-minority-abuse-investigation-scotland https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/09/27/grooming-epidemic-spreads-north-glasgow-scotland/ https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/rotherham-style-child-abuse-in-scotland-probed-1-3526201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gordon R said: After a very swift search:- https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/795387/unacceptable-legal-delays-ethnic-minority-abuse-investigation-scotland https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/09/27/grooming-epidemic-spreads-north-glasgow-scotland/ https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/rotherham-style-child-abuse-in-scotland-probed-1-3526201 You cant use those as sources Gordon, theyre too 'far right' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 I'm sure if I had invested another two minutes, I could have found some far left ones too. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) BBC news 6 mins ago.Jailed for 9 months for contempt of court. Edited July 11, 2019 by Bobba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 I hope he appeals against the judgement and the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIL1 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I hope he appeals against the judgement and the sentence. I'm sure he said a couple of days back that he is looking to appeal 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: By all accounts he will have to spend just 9.5 weeks in prison, which could be reduced for good behaviour. Still long enough to come out lying in a box, hope he keeps safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Not sure he has grounds for appeal and the sentence could increase. Will he learn when to speak and where? I honestly wonder. He says he has no future in this country and wants to go to the USA. I would imagine his record will preclude that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 TR 'fans' are reported to be rioting in London according to some sensationalist rag or other. TR , whose real name is still apparently Stephen Yaxley Lennon ... , allegedly told them to do it, further demos, are planned for outside his prison cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rewulf said: Not being specific keeps you out of trouble. As you well know. As far as I know TR is not exposing gangs of Asians from religions such as Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. If it’s Islamist gangs then surely we can state that without fear of it being interpreted that we support or endorse his actions!? Nor that we are anti-Islamist by the way. Edited July 11, 2019 by Raja Clavata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: If it’s Islamist gangs then surely we can state that without fear of it being interpreted that we support or endorse his actions!? Actually ,no you cant. Certainly not if you want to continue discussing it on this thread anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Actually ,no you cant. Certainly not if you want to continue discussing it on this thread anyway. For real? Is it not bad enough that all Muslims are somewhat blighted by the minority that dis-honour their religion let alone blighting all Asians with the same! BTW despite my user name I am not Asian, at least not by birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIL1 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Actually ,no you cant. Certainly not if you want to continue discussing it on this thread anyway. +1 If you want to talk about Muslims start another thread as I wouldn't want this thread closed down,not that I started the thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: For real? Is it not bad enough that all Muslims are somewhat blighted by the minority that dis-honour their religion let alone blighting all Asians with the same! Not really the way it works though is it ? Are all white people contaminated by far right , white supremacists ? I know the majority of society , whatever race or religion, are basically good people. But if you start singling out one aspect of race and religion when it comes to terrorism or grooming, anything really, then invariably the thread will get locked. In fact, there are people who want that to happen , and will goad others into mentioning the unmentionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIL1 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 For some reason the site merged the two posts. 2nd post not aimed at you Rewulf. 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Not really the way it works though is it ? Are all white people contaminated by far right , white supremacists ? I know the majority of society , whatever race or religion, are basically good people. But if you start singling out one aspect of race and religion when it comes to terrorism or grooming, anything really, then invariably the thread will get locked. In fact, there are people who want that to happen , and will goad others into mentioning the unmentionable Spot on 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Quote If it’s Islamist gangs then surely we can state that without fear of it being interpreted that we support or endorse his actions!? If you wish to state that - get on with it, but don't ask others to fire bullets that you supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: As far as I know TR is not exposing gangs of Asians from religions such as Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. If it’s Islamist gangs then surely we can state that without fear of it being interpreted that we support or endorse his actions!? Nor that we are anti-Islamist by the way. It’s a rule I disagree with but have to follow, rules are rules…https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/273949-new-off-topic-rule/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Not really the way it works though is it ? Are all white people contaminated by far right , white supremacists ? I know the majority of society , whatever race or religion, are basically good people. But if you start singling out one aspect of race and religion when it comes to terrorism or grooming, anything really, then invariably the thread will get locked. In fact, there are people who want that to happen , and will goad others into mentioning the unmentionable I suspect that depends on perspective somewhat. Whilst I certainly would not want to be responsible for having the thread locked I actually think it ran its course several pages ago but if you’re gonna talk so generically that Asians then I don’t see how anything gets resolved by discussing the matter further. Its a bit like blaming people who sell knives for the knife crime epidemic. Anyway I’ll bail now and avoid further posts on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, old'un said: It’s a rule I disagree with but have to follow, rules are rules…https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/273949-new-off-topic-rule/ I would have thought Asian was at least an indirect reference to race, even if not intended to be discriminatory it’s at a minimum differentiating. But anyway, I’m out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, henry d said: Ok, after a good search I can find only one report (apart from far right groups) of grooming in Scotland, it concerned a single girl in Glasgow, yet there is a large population of Asians in all the other large centres, Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen... So why is it not happening here? I don't think we should generalise over the use of the word Asian. That suggests that it was common to all men of Asian origin. There perpetrators were from Pakistan and the lower socio-economic strata of Pakistani society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Nor that we are anti-Islamist by the way. I am... and every decent, right minded person should be too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7234013/Policewoman-revealed-truth-Rochdale-sex-gangs-breaks-silence.html?fbclid=IwAR1hhJNo7lXjgRF5OptxTMOuBnVS4uuXZKK8sTEyngPhA-j5n7MqNzfUKZE 3 minutes ago, poontang said: I am... and every decent, right minded person should be too And, thats the comment that gets the thread shut down. Remember what I said about being goaded ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: For real? Is it not bad enough that all Muslims are somewhat blighted by the minority that dis-honour their religion let alone blighting all Asians with the same! BTW despite my user name I am not Asian, at least not by birth. Your user name belongs to a fish that lives in the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rewulf said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7234013/Policewoman-revealed-truth-Rochdale-sex-gangs-breaks-silence.html?fbclid=IwAR1hhJNo7lXjgRF5OptxTMOuBnVS4uuXZKK8sTEyngPhA-j5n7MqNzfUKZE And, thats the comment that gets the thread shut down. Remember what I said about being goaded ? Why would it get the thread shut down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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