sandspider Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hi all Just wondering, is the above a thing? We have a flat(ish) roof where the angles are wrong, and water pools on the lead, traps leaves and things and goes manky and smelly. Re-angling the roof and refitting the lead are fairly major work, but I was wondering if there is something I can pour into the lead dip to flatten everything out, or ideally slope it outwards slightly so water drains down to the gutter rather than sitting on the roof? It would need to be waterproof, obviously! Picture attached. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Something wrong there, not enough fall on the roof to allow water to drain away. Is everything all right underneath where that roof is looks perhaps if something has sunk underneath? Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 As BP says,If it self levels it will have no fall so water will not drain away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I don't think anything has sunk - it's a fairly new roof, about 15 years old. I think it was just done poorly in the first place, with no fall! If totally horizontal, less water would gather on it than now, when it pools. But if there's something I can pour on there then set a slight fall to, directing the water outwards, that would be even better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 screed it off to the correct level with cement then lay fibreglass matt on and mix in the gel coat with the resin...roller it........to make it waterproof....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 strip the lead off, adjust the deck if you can if not put some tapered fillets over the existing deck and new plywood over and re lay the lead it will last a lifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Lift the lead and alter the falls,as it all looks wrong. you could try a deep base self levelling compound,then paint it with roofing compound ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 The glazed roof has been set too high. You need a decent upstand against the brick but the window sill is a restriction. You could remove the lead and increase the falls on the flat roof and then renew the lead , but you may be better advised not to use lead again but fibreglass, which will not require the rolls and can be had in a lead grey colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Thanks all I'm trying to avoid lifting the roof, I think it may become a larger project than I have the time or skill for! Something to pour or brush on to level things off a bit would help without major surgery, I hope. Screed I could probably cope with, as long as it's not to heavy. It will need to wait until Spring now anyway I reckon, it's not going to dry out until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Saltings said: strip the lead off, adjust the deck if you can if not put some tapered fillets over the existing deck and new plywood over and re lay the lead it will last a lifetime Could be difficult to relay lead that has lain there for 15 years. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Its not cheap, but if you built coats up, or put something underneath, to give you a gentle slope, this could solve the problem. It doesnt crack when it dries out like common or garden roof bitumen. https://www.amazon.co.uk/LITRE-ALUMINIUM-PAINT-REFLECTIVE-COATING/dp/B00IXP8EE8/ref=asc_df_B00IXP8EE8/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309912015312&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13329731385342755175&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=aud-548500765412:pla-695649065456&psc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 right first time is the cheapest, ( if you have to make it right do it right it will be cheaper in the long run ) , cut corners it will cost more to pit right in the future throw everything away and start again ,cheap costs money every time , strip and re lay lead with a new deck incorporating a decent slope no more problems in the future been there done this cheapest fix my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Cheers gents. Will consider the options and what I'm capabale of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 How old is that window ? That’ll be next sorry to say without a bit of maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 The open window is about 180 years old! (If original, anyway...) I know it's a bit tired and needs some TLC and paint... Anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 hours ago, sandspider said: The open window is about 180 years old! (If original, anyway...) I know it's a bit tired and needs some TLC and paint... Anything else? Yup . The railings need a coat of paint lol 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Sorry to say that in my opinion you can't coat the lead. lead expands and contracts (moves) that's why the mopsticks are there. You can patch a leak with different things. but that's not your problem. only thing to do in my mind is lift the lead, introduce a new deck with fall and fibreglass, or reuse the lead but you'll have to keep the mopsticks if you do that/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 15:24, team tractor said: Yup . The railings need a coat of paint lol 😂 Quiet, you! You haven't seen the state of the rest of it! On 12/10/2019 at 16:24, tonker said: Sorry to say that in my opinion you can't coat the lead. lead expands and contracts (moves) that's why the mopsticks are there. You can patch a leak with different things. but that's not your problem. only thing to do in my mind is lift the lead, introduce a new deck with fall and fibreglass, or reuse the lead but you'll have to keep the mopsticks if you do that/ Thanks. Maybe not something I can do myself with a quick fix then. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 14/10/2019 at 10:07, sandspider said: Quiet, you! You haven't seen the state of the rest of it! Thanks. Maybe not something I can do myself with a quick fix then. Ah well. some scaffolding for storage of lead some plywood a decent bloke a days labour to strip and re lay lead depending on access , at , what level scaffolding could be your biggest expense if not in a hurry could be cheaper as an access platform rather than a roofing issue ie you need access to paint windows 😉 a leak or roofing problem is more expensive for scaffolding , my experience a scaffolder mate gave me a price on a building he knew inc sizes after building his price into pricing the job on a roofing replacement job the scaffolder turned up on Friday afternoon with gear on truck only needed handrail and loading tower needed for Monday the price trebled I had no choice , all gear and labour put in place for Monday no scaffolding would cost me a fortune so agreed envelope new written on new price however the envelope contained cash agreed previously , with a note take this up with the tax man never used them again get some prices for decorating cheaper than a leak heads up or not in a hurry is always cheaper (heads up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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