WalkedUp Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, chilly1981 said: Lot of my dogs trained better than your dog posts here the op said the dogs were already happily playing and the other dog gave him a nip the dog has no marks and is ok apart from been shocked he didn’t say there was a continued attack also didn’t say it just ran over and bounced on him and nipped him they were playing and the older dog has given the younger dog a warning nip ( the op also states in later post his can be a bit exuberant ) so all this talk of kicking the dogs and such like has no relevance to this post he didn’t ask how to brake up dog or what to do if they are fighting he asked about his dog not been his normal self and as pointed out it’s just a bit of shock and from the op saying they have seen each other since and been fine it’s obvious the warning nip has done it’s intended and his dog has learnt from it The title of the thread is “Dog attacked”... 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 hours ago, The Heron said: No she is only just twelve months so like any youngster she is full of energy all that they were doing was playing and chasing each other my dog does this with some other dogs when she meets them. er....? sounds like ....er...not in control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, harkom said: er....? sounds like ....er...not in control? I welcome your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 This thread is derailed, largely my fault sorry @The Heron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Look like every one on here with a dog I love her to bits all I wanted was a bit of advice what I did not aim for was people falling out, I know people are passionate about their pets and working dogs but we are all in the same club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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al4x Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) On 11/05/2020 at 11:39, Retsdon said: It sounds like your over familiar young dog got 'taught' its manners by a, possibly a bit crusty, older dog and came away a trifle chastened by the experience. This is how healthy normal dogs interact and I'm amazed that it should generate a page full of comments. Thank god we got a sensible post in the end. The dog learned a lesson and that’s it, if there are no marks then the other dog did a good job and the pup learned a lesson. Ultimately you want your dog to interact and this will actually have done it good so just move on. Edited May 13, 2020 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted May 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 hours ago, al4x said: Thank god we got a sensible post in the end. The dog learned a lesson and that’s it, if there are no marks then the other dog did a good job and the pup learned a lesson. Ultimately you want your dog to interact and this will actually have done it good so just move on. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 11:15, The Heron said: my dog is very exuberant and can be a bit to much for some older dogs One thing to remember is that older dogs - like some of us older people! - can be a bit stiff around the joints so if an older mutt has a touch of arthritis or little niggles of that kind and gets bounced on by an exuberant pup it can actually hurt, and then even the best natured of them will cut up a bit rough. Another thing to remember is that dogs don't have the benefit of a vocabulary. So in situations where we might start dropping F-bombs or banging plates, when dogs lose their temper they'll sometimes do their talking with their teeth! It doesn't mean that the dog is nasty, it just means that it's had enough of it and, by virtue of age and status (dogs always have a very clear pecking order) it's letting the other dog know what's what. But it's nothing to worry about - it's just how they do things. The last point is that your dog might be taking it a bit hard because if it's been brought up from a pup as an 'only dog' it possibly does't understand exactly what happened. You'll find that dogs which are socialized with other dogs from an early age - fed together, exercised together, etc, etc, are far less sensitive to these kind of little incidents. Ninety percent of the the time it's water off a duck's back for them. But of course, they know the 'dog rules' of what's acceptable and what's not so when they overdo it and get chastised they know the score and don't take it to heart. Just like kids really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. Edited May 13, 2020 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 13, 2020 Report Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, oowee said: This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. He's a handsome little chap, isn't he?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 11:52, WalkedUp said: It depends upon the severity and reasonableness of the lesson. If a dog gets bitten it has gone too far IMO. My 14 week old pup had its ear torn in two by a friend’s older dog that it simply walked past. That dog is now dead. Whilst a fat unaccompanied Labrador attacked (bounded into twice, jumping up) my pregnant wife and her elderly aunt whilst we were walking on a deserted beach near her aunt’s home in Scotland, knocking the aunt over (she is also sadly deceased now). I was carrying my oldest two sons and so had no hands free so had to command the dogs to “have it”. The Labrador was ripped to shreds, it was quite sickening to see the ferocity in my dogs and the skin torn from the flesh before they listened to the command to “halt”. The lab was howling in pain, the poor thing it wasn’t the dog’s fault that it had been badly trained. The owners probably thought it was a cheeky little handful and loves attention jumping up. It could have seriously injured someone. I had to send my dogs into the sea a few times to get the blood off them and was very unhappy they had been forced to be aggressive. Not sure how you train dogs "to have it"?..........well I am really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 8 hours ago, old man said: Not sure how you train dogs "to have it"?..........well I am really. No training, I suppose it’s a mixture of the dogs’ instinct from the situation, a reaction the the intonation and any vocal command breaking the “heel” command. I use “relax” as a command when I’ve finished training / heeling. I use “push” when I want to flush from point etc. The dogs don’t understand the meaning of the word but it’s partly the action of giving the command allows them to jump into action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 My bitch is German and my dog is mixed. According to some of the breeders and the old books / cuttings in old European working trials to test gameness and heart a Weimeraner was expected to A. kill a penned feral cat / fox and B. react positively to a unknown person. I have trained this out of them, these two have grown up with cats and plenty of socialisation. But generations of breeding and instinct are in there, same as the ability to point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Can’t find the German / Czech sources but this article alludes to the breed history: https://www.thefield.co.uk/country-house/the-best-guard-dog-breeds-26145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 13/05/2020 at 18:29, oowee said: This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. Christ on a bike..... bit off topic here but every time I see a cocker now (forgive me if its a field spaniel or sprocker) it always seems to have some resemblance to my late girl I lost last year. She was the same chocolate brown with the bit of quiff on the head and had them same splayed rear legs when sitting down.... I often thought when she was young that she had hip bother or it was the slippy wooden floor she was trying to sit on in the house but turns out some of them just prefer to put their whole backside on the ground. That's one handsome fella, shame my wife is adamant that the next dog will be a Labrador. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Great looking dog oowee. Rob85, get a Spaniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 14, 2020 Report Share Posted May 14, 2020 Just to give some context of 99.9999% of their interactions are complete indifference to other dogs - as per picture. I rarely bother to get pictures of them in backs of land rovers or trailers etc (this one was taken for the juxtaposition of the grouse in the trailer behind). But dogs need to know how to behave and be calm even if being innocently climbed all over etc. Obviously if they or my family are being attacked then gloves off, which is great - it’s what they are bred to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 13/05/2020 at 18:29, oowee said: This is my attack dog Charlie (the one on the right)moments before he looses it and rips that deer apart. Check them out for splayed back legs on my old girl, she was 4 in this picture trying to work out why Scooby wasn't talking back....She was also hell for belly crawling too for some reason. Maybe just liked a bit of yoga! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Looks like the two dogs could be siblings. I cannot imagine scooby lasted very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 A 12 month old PUP off a lead playing with another dog, the mature dog puts the pup in its place. What next, the pups sulking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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