Centrepin Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Has anyone used these and why? Opinions please, they came as part of a deal and I'm not sure I will use them. I think they are no 2 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Looks like they would take care of Mr fox nicely 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Use them on the crow's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 I usually shoot crows and pigeons but thought they maybe a touch heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: Looks like they would take care of Mr fox nicely 👍 Those green ones do nice work of mr fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 I'll pop a couple in my pocket but other than the field outside my house havn't seen a fox in the countryside for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Centrepin said: I'll pop a couple in my pocket but other than the field outside my house havn't seen a fox in the countryside for ages I generally have 2 on the left side of my cart belt as you never know when he pops out 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Yes. 1) They are NOT for use in standard English 2 3/4" or standard continental 70mm chambered shotguns. They are MAGNUM LOADS for 2 3/4" Magnum proof guns or can be used in old English standard non-magnum 3" chambered guns if that gun is proof marked for 1 1/2 ounces shot loading. 2) For AFAIR these are, these 2 3/4" Semi Magnum, the equivalent of the OLD non-magnum English 3" load. Again I cannot over stress that these are the equivalent AFAIR of the old non-Magnum English 3" load. So to repeat: They are NOT an attempt (mimicking the old Eley Maximum) but in a 2 3/4" chamber length of giving the performance of "the next load up" but in the same pressure figures as the a gun chambered in that cartridge length standard load. They are for 2 3/4" Magnum proofed guns except as noted. So if you've an old English standard 3" gun then these are what it would use nowadays as, of course, nobody loads these standard non-magnum 3" loads any longer. And indeed anyone with an old English standard non-magnum 3" chambered gun would delight to have them. At one time there was, yes, an English 2 3/4" Magnum proof and proof stamping. Hope it helps. Edited May 18, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 I used the 3" versions of these on geese in Scotland many moons ago … good shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 They are amazing I use them all the time on geese 1 hour ago, Centrepin said: Has anyone used these and why? Opinions please, they came as part of a deal and I'm not sure I will use them. I think they are no 2 shot I thought the only came in BB or 3s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 I thought they were 2s as its marked on the case, it doesn't say on the box. I suppose short of cutting one open I'll never know. They came as part of a deal with some other mixed carts of 28gram, 30gram, - some with no markings at all and some that say Diana 30. The guys licence expires in June and he wanted rid of lots of gun related stuff and mixed fishing stuff to keep his wife happy. Most of it old, outdated, or simply requiring TLC. If fired they will go through a Miroku MK38 Sporter or a Hatsan supreme max semi. Thanks for the replies 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Centrepin said: I thought they were 2s as its marked on the case, it doesn't say on the box. I suppose short of cutting one open I'll never know. They came as part of a deal with some other mixed carts of 28gram, 30gram, - some with no markings at all and some that say Diana 30. The guys licence expires in June and he wanted rid of lots of gun related stuff and mixed fishing stuff to keep his wife happy. Most of it old, outdated, or simply requiring TLC. If fired they will go through a Miroku MK38 Sporter or a Hatsan supreme max semi. Thanks for the replies 👍 Was there any paper cased in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, Farmboy91 said: Was there any paper cased in there? No only plastic. He sold the paper cases to a dealer for £5.00, was told that's all they're worth🙄 Lovely 16m fishing pole plus extension missing its top sections, make a brilliant lofting pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Centrepin said: No only plastic. He sold the paper cases to a dealer for £5.00, was told that's all they're worth🙄 Lovely 16m fishing pole plus extension missing its top sections, make a brilliant lofting pole Hmm, it's normally that or the complete opposite and an old box of grand prix's are worth a small fortune 😂 Result that you got some good gear though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Quote If fired they will go through a Miroku MK38 Sporter.. That'll be interesting. If it is a standard Miroku with a standard 70mm chamber it'll be proofed for 850 bar. Fiocchi 2 3/4" Semi-Magnum are 920 bar. Edited May 18, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rabbit Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: That'll be interesting. If it is a standard Miroku with a standard 70mm chamber it'll be proofed for 850 bar. Fiocchi 2 3/4" Semi-Magnum are 920 bar. Most modern 70mm Miroku's are proofed to 1370 bar from memory. Way in excess of what's required. WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Salmo said: They are amazing I use them all the time on geese I thought the only came in BB or 3s I've some in 2s. 0s and bbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 9 hours ago, White Rabbit said: Most modern 70mm Miroku's are proofed to 1370 bar from memory. Way in excess of what's required. WR. The design doesn't seem to have changed much … makes you wonder where they got the additional strength from … ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted May 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 11 hours ago, enfieldspares said: That'll be interesting. If it is a standard Miroku with a standard 70mm chamber it'll be proofed for 850 bar. Fiocchi 2 3/4" Semi-Magnum are 920 bar. 10 hours ago, White Rabbit said: Most modern 70mm Miroku's are proofed to 1370 bar from memory. Way in excess of what's required. WR. I'll check before I even leave the house, I've no intention of damaging my pride and joy. Thanks for the heads up. 32 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: The design doesn't seem to have changed much … makes you wonder where they got the additional strength from … ? I know mine is proofed for super steel and as its relatively new I guess they just up the ratings. Bit like when I bought a caravan and its was plated for carrying X and I wanted more so for a little more cash they supplied a new upgraded weight plate to carry X+.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted May 19, 2020 Report Share Posted May 19, 2020 If they're marked 2's on the cartidge thats what they are. There'll have been a tape on the lid indicating the shot size, which has fell off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I’ve got some in #2 shot and BB, and #3 l think. I don’t use them in my sxs but they work well in my auto. Also I’ve got some in 3” and 3:1/2” inc #00’s as well. ouch😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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