boo Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 This just popped up on goggle , carnt open the article in the telegraph.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nic Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 https://basc.org.uk/basc-challenges-natural-englands-wildfowling-review/ it sounds like the ******* Packham may be putting his BBC paid two pennies worth in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberisle Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Why dont NE just go with the Status Quo keep the consents active on land passed previously and only withdraw then if there is a strong reason to do so. Or NE could just come upfront and admit they are biased against fieldsports and plan to ban every one they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Don’t forget pacman’s mate fronts NE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadman Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-sunday-telegraph/20200621/281586652853371 You can read the article here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 The references to "shoots" and "gamekeepers" make the original article a bit confusing to an outsider. However I have come across NE staff who think that wildfowling is conducted like a driven shoot with beaters etc. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Rules are being made by people who are ignorant of what they are actually banning. Absolutely unbelievable. So much ground has been lost over the last couple of years. Maybe I wont be getting a gun dog next in a few years. Better stick to my lurchers because we lost out years ago but at least we can plug on to a degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Why oh why do we roll over to WJ and the Packham wukfit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Wild Justice there name just sums it up they are on a crusade to save every animal and stop hunting in any form. Simple as. They don't actually have a clue. Just disgraceful Edited June 21, 2020 by captainhastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, captainhastings said: Wild Justice there name just sums it up they are on a crusade to save every animal and stop hunting in any form. Simple as. They don't actually have a clue. Just disgraceful But no one will do anything about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, grahamch said: But no one will do anything about them Seem to be walking over everything at the moment. You can’t go out now and just drop a pigeon for the pot. Just absurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 NE have not got the manpower to carry out surveys of various clubs grounds.The article was obviously written by a journalist with no idea what they were writing about ,but we must be used to this.I don't believe WJ have anything to do with the consents being withheld,it is simply the inefficiency of NE.This is why DEFRA have taken the general licence back after the complete cock up NE made last year.This government agency must be brought to book as NRW in Wales . Ineffective in whatever they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I have never taken an interest in the likes of basc before. But to be honest if they are the only folks we have ? Then people need to get behind them. The larger there numbers the more clout they have I guess. I am seriously considering joining now. Shame they don't do a monthly sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 The WJ inclusion in this article is pure BS, propaganda on WJs part/ or their advocates. who wishfully think its a WJ gain. this is Natural England and its typical of Tony juniper and his ilk, they saw a chink latched on withheld consents , with no obvious in house ability or resources to effectively undertake any review of the magnitude required. Basc are well versed in consents and no doubt looking at ways to bring this to a suitable conclusion. i think its a huge home goal for the Tony juniper reign at NE, he is not getting much right. and the government have not got enough money to suffer fools gladly. We need to wait and see what comes in the Natural england response, but i think they look in a Embarrassing position. 38 minutes ago, captainhastings said: I have never taken an interest in the likes of basc before. But to be honest if they are the only folks we have ? Then people need to get behind them. The larger there numbers the more clout they have I guess. I am seriously considering joining now. Shame they don't do a monthly sub BASC are a godsend. Without them we would be absolutely screwed , take no notice of the BASC naysayers they are the only show in town when it counts, and your right we all need to get behind them on this and other things. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, lancer425 said: The WJ inclusion in this article is pure BS, propaganda on WJs part/ or their advocates. who wishfully think its a WJ gain. this is Natural England and its typical of Tony juniper and his ilk, they saw a chink latched on withheld consents , with no obvious in house ability or resources to effectively undertake any review of the magnitude required. Basc are well versed in consents and no doubt looking at ways to bring this to a suitable conclusion. i think its a huge home goal for the Tony juniper reign at NE, he is not getting much right. and the government have not got enough money to suffer fools gladly. We need to wait and see what comes in the Natural england response, but i think they look in a Embarrassing position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 I totally agree with lancer 425.NE. have over extended themselves.I do hope BASC and others can sort this dreadful mess out,sooner than later and show how badley NE are being run,costing the tax payer many thousands of pounds a year.,as well as NRW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 captainhastings - you can in fact join BASC on a quarterly or monthly direct debit. Call them on 01244 573000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 21 hours ago, captainhastings said: I have never taken an interest in the likes of basc before. But to be honest if they are the only folks we have ? Then people need to get behind them. The larger there numbers the more clout they have I guess. I am seriously considering joining now. Shame they don't do a monthly sub They do. Think I pay about £7 a month last time I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 20:17, lancer425 said: The WJ inclusion in this article is pure BS, propaganda on WJs part/ or their advocates. who wishfully think its a WJ gain. Everything in the press at the moment that is anti hunting/shooting is pure propaganda. There was an article in the Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/06/trophy-hunting-imports-banned-uk/) that says a ban has happened. Well I know for a fact it hasnt as the consultation is still on going. The antis are having stuff printed every week making out that they are winning but the reality is different. All they have is emotion to motivate no facts or science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 "It would be a thousand pities if the wildfowler,with all his qualities of energy and perspective, should fail to use them for the protection,purification and the perpetuation of his sport." Stanely Duncan 1908. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, SuperGoose75 said: "It would be a thousand pities if the wildfowler,with all his qualities of energy and perspective, should fail to use them for the protection,purification and the perpetuation of his sport." Stanely Duncan 1908. Amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Excellent article in this weeks Countryman’s Weekly describing the current situation on the Humber. there will be no Wildfowling at the starting of the season , in fact we can only hope but not expect to get some wildfowling later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just to bring you up to speed we did not get a consent to shoot the Upper Humber last season. A lot of hard work was put into trying to turn the situation around but NE are like a brick wall. We can only hope for a consent for next season. if progress is not made on the Humber I truly fear for wildfowling on a national scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, scolopax said: Just to bring you up to speed we did not get a consent to shoot the Upper Humber last season. A lot of hard work was put into trying to turn the situation around but NE are like a brick wall. We can only hope for a consent for next season. if progress is not made on the Humber I truly fear for wildfowling on a national scale. Can you not take legal action? is that **** Juniper still in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, grahamch said: Can you not take legal action? is that **** Juniper still in charge? I have not been closely involved in this, but BASC have spent a lot of money on the case, partly on legal advise. And yes Juniper is still in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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