Fredwalton Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Sorry if this has been asked before but just thinking about lead shot and the ban tat is coming in in a few years time. What is going to happen with my guns that can't take Steel shot? Again apologies if this has been discussed etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Discussion millions of time. It’s a “voluntary ban” ... I shall just carry on using lead. Most guns will take non-HP steel guns no problem. I think there’s even a 2 1/2” steel cart now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 You must sell all your guns cheaply on this forum!!!! In actual fact just shoot and forget it. Dont buy 5cwt of lead for reloading though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Discussion millions of time. It’s a “voluntary ban” ... I shall just carry on using lead. Most guns will take non-HP steel guns no problem. I think there’s even a 2 1/2” steel cart now. Yeah it will be voluntary by the cartridge manufacturers and shops not to sell lead carts . So when you cant buy them there will be nothing voluntary for you about it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Yeah it will be voluntary by the cartridge manufacturers and shops not to sell lead carts . So when you cant buy them there will be nothing voluntary for you about it . Cartridge manufacturers and shops sell what people want. Why would they stop selling Lead? What’s in it for them? If one shop stops doing lead and another sells it people who want lead will drive past the shop that don’t sell it to go to the other one. If it’s not enforced then why would one shop stop selling it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ultrastu said: OK ?? You made the claim that gunshops are going to stop selling lead during a voluntary ban... Arent you going to answer any of those questions? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 anyone who refuses to sale me lead can look forward to losing my business for EVERYTHING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, clangerman said: anyone who refuses to sale me lead can look forward to losing my business for EVERYTHING! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 19 hours ago, Fredwalton said: Sorry if this has been asked before but just thinking about lead shot and the ban tat is coming in in a few years time. What is going to happen with my guns that can't take Steel shot? Again apologies if this has been discussed etc What are your guns that cannot take steel shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 18 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Cartridge manufacturers and shops sell what people want. Why would they stop selling Lead? What’s in it for them? If one shop stops doing lead and another sells it people who want lead will drive past the shop that don’t sell it to go to the other one. If it’s not enforced then why would one shop stop selling it? Er I think they sell what makes the best profit not everyone has the luxury of being within easy driving distance of alternative shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Er I think they sell what makes the best profit not everyone has the luxury of being within easy driving distance of alternative shops If one shop sells lead and one doesn’t and people want lead then the shop that tries to force steel onto its customers can’t make much profit if the customers go elsewhere surely? Justcartridges can deliver your choice of carts to your doorstep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: If one shop sells lead and one doesn’t and people want lead then the shop that tries to force steel onto its customers can’t make much profit if the customers go elsewhere surely? Justcartridges can deliver your choice of carts to your doorstep. Do they really?? everywhere? or is that just mainland uk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Do they really?? everywhere? or is that just mainland uk ? I live in mainland U.K. so apologies I have not checked elsewhere. I would have thought however the vast majority of cartridges get sold on mainland U.K. ? 🤷♂️ Economies of scale etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: I live in mainland U.K. so apologies I have not checked elsewhere. I would have thought however the vast majority of cartridges get sold on mainland U.K. ? 🤷♂️ Economies of scale etc. So they will sell them where the profit is ? as I said not everyone has the luxury of the choice you have what you can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Old farrier said: So they will sell them where the profit is ? as I said not everyone has the luxury of the choice you have what you can get Yes they will sell them where the profit is, I thought you were saying there is more profit in cartridge shops selling steel over lead? Do you currently have issues getting cartridges where you are? If not why would they stop selling cartridges up your way in future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Yes they will sell them where the profit is, I thought you were saying there is more profit in cartridge shops selling steel over lead? Do you currently have issues getting cartridges where you are? If not why would they stop selling cartridges up your way in future? Down my way we have what we can get which is inevitably the cartridges with the most profit for the supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Old farrier said: Down my way we have what we can get which is inevitably the cartridges with the most profit for the supplier Sorry Old Farrier, down your way They will old have the one brand? and one cartridge choice? 32g 6's for everything! God, where abouts are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Lloyd90 said: Sorry Old Farrier, down your way They will old have the one brand? and one cartridge choice? 32g 6's for everything! God, where abouts are you? That’s the thing with forums when sweeping comments are made it’s rarely considered that some are not afforded the luxury of the location that the posters live in or the problems incurred in obtaining the goods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Old farrier said: That’s the thing with forums when sweeping comments are made it’s rarely considered that some are not afforded the luxury of the location that the posters live in or the problems incurred in obtaining the goods Yes, sorry but it's hard to take into account every person in every corner of the UK though. As with most things, comments and plans put in place for the most benefit to the most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: Yes, sorry but it's hard to take into account every person in every corner of the UK though. As with most things, comments and plans put in place for the most benefit to the most people. Bit like selling for profit then sell it to the masses and never mind the rest however we get used to it 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 At some point there wont be the choice of lead. Wont be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: At some point there wont be the choice of lead. Wont be made. Possibly not, but the voluntary phase out only effects live quarry shooters, or in particular game shooters....if they choose to phase it out of course. Im assuming if there’s a demand, and manufacturers choose to supply that demand, it will still be available. If not game shooters will possibly just buy trap cartridges. 🤷♂️ I intend to stockpile my favourite game cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scully said: Possibly not, but the voluntary phase out only effects live quarry shooters, or in particular game shooters....if they choose to phase it out of course. Im assuming if there’s a demand, and manufacturers choose to supply that demand, it will still be available. If not game shooters will possibly just buy trap cartridges. 🤷♂️ I intend to stockpile my favourite game cartridges. Agreed, but I fear it Could be the slow beginning of the end for lead, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just a quick question, is lead to be phased out for pigeon and corvids as well as game? If so someone's getting a bulk order from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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