Louisnagiel Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Hi everyone im just looking for some information on this gun. (I will attach pictures) I can’t find anything on the web about it. It has been deactivated but I know nothing about it. Or what it worth. I was hoping some of you cleaver people could help me 😊 thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 1866 Yellowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 🤣The rifle that won the west🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisnagiel Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Thank you. Do you happen to know what it worth ? Deactivated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Zapp said: 1866 Yellowboy This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) yellow boy...looks like a .357mag...............shame its deactavated ....never see the point Edited April 8, 2021 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisnagiel Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 It was my grandfathers. He was fanatical about gun safety and following the law. Very good shot in his day too. I think it was something to do with the laws changing and him not having an appropriate certificate for it. I know I wish it wasent deactivated 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, ditchman said: yellow boy...looks like a .357mag...............shame its deactavated ....never see the point Me neither. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Zapp said: 1866 Yellowboy I would suggest its also a modern repro ! That cardboard Uberti box wouldnt have survived from 1866 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, JJsDad said: I would suggest its also a modern repro ! That cardboard Uberti box wouldnt have survived from 1866 !!! It's a model 1866, not from 1866... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Lovely looking gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Louisnagiel said: Thank you. Do you happen to know what it worth ? Deactivated A lot less than if it wasn't. What sort of deactivation certificate has it got? Some forms of earlier deacts can't be legally re sold now. Its a bit of a difficult area, very confusing information from the powers that be People are reluctant to buy deacts because they fear more legislation. Edited April 8, 2021 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 So does deactivated just mean the chamber is welded up? If so could you not rebarrel it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 It's only worth what someone will pay for it as a decoration. Or maybe try those re-enactment folk. Possibly fetch more at an auction house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: So does deactivated just mean the chamber is welded up? If so could you not rebarrel it? There’s a lot more to it than that I’m afraid. Nowadays the whole point of deactivation is to render the firearm totally incapable of being reactivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modafinale Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 The early deactivated firearms can’t be sold, swapped or even given away without contravention of the law. so unless it’s the absolutely butchered deactivated gun it’s box has more value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisnagiel Posted April 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Thank you for the info guys 👍🏻 I won’t be selling it was just curious. I will keep the gun for display because it’s a gorgeous looking gun. I will in the future look at getting it deactivated if possible with following all the right laws and regulations. Appreciate it guys 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Scully said: There’s a lot more to it than that I’m afraid. Nowadays the whole point of deactivation is to render the firearm totally incapable of being reactivated. That’s a shame. But a lever action permit is easy to get is it not? I would think it to be similar to a bolt action. Plus the cost of a cabinet of course. But I guess it would be to late now anyway. I just hate to see family heirlooms destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoBodyImportant said: That’s a shame. But a lever action permit is easy to get is it not? I would think it to be similar to a bolt action. Plus the cost of a cabinet of course. But I guess it would be to late now anyway. I just hate to see family heirlooms destroyed. I’m afraid in our nation of authoritarian bed wetters, ANY working firearm capable of using commercially available ammo is subject to the strictest vetting and legislative procedures. In view of the post below, make that read ‘ANY working or none working firearm’! See what I mean. 🙂 Edited April 9, 2021 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Do be aware that the Home Office has now required....by 14 March 2021...ALL de-activated weapons to be registered with them. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/circular-0102019-firearms-regulations-2019-and-the-firearms-amendment-no2-rules-2019/0102019-firearms-regulations-2019-and-the-firearms-amendment-no2-rules-2019#notification-of-transfer-or-possession-of-deactivated-firearms Edited April 9, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modafinale Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 Louis unfortunately you can’t, you have to submit it to a RFD to store it or have it deactivated to current standards if it’s deactivated to old spec ( eg the action cycles ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisnagiel Posted April 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Modafinale said: Louis unfortunately you can’t, you have to submit it to a RFD to store it or have it deactivated to current standards if it’s deactivated to old spec ( eg the action cycles ) Hi modafinale. Sorry don’t quite understand what you mean. Are you saying I can’t have it reactivated? Bit of a pain if not 😔 I’m happy to have it deactivated to current standards and report to home office that it is under my possession. That would be okay wouldn’t it ? So confusing all these laws. Thanks for your help though pal appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modafinale Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 Hi Louis if the rifle was deactivated before I believe 2016 it would be the old style ie- The action works it is illegal to sell, loan or gift has to be surrendered to RFD for either correct deactivation or destroyed (you can’t legally keep it unless it’s the newer deactivated ) the new deactivated firearms are welded so don’t work. also the latest update 2020 you have to notify the home office that you have a deactivated firearm ( no cost involved) hope that helps Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Modafinale said: Hi Louis if the rifle was deactivated before I believe 2016 it would be the old style ie- The action works it is illegal to sell, loan or gift has to be surrendered to RFD for either correct deactivation or destroyed (you can’t legally keep it unless it’s the newer deactivated ) the new deactivated firearms are welded so don’t work. also the latest update 2020 you have to notify the home office that you have a deactivated firearm ( no cost involved) hope that helps Dean That’s interesting. I sold two in the late ‘90’s I’d bought in my teens. I wonder if he knows! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 I rember making full sized plastic repro pistol kits. They'll require notification of these next! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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