Browning A5 warranty

[Royboy]

Hi 

I was wondering if anybody could give me any advise about a gun I’ve just purchased.

A friend of mine passed away about 5 years ago and his wife has now decided to sell all his guns and I got first refusal on one,

I got a immaculate Browning A5 limited edition and only 500 made, it’s a 2014 model and I bet it’s not had 100 cartridges through it, I took it out for the first time this morning on clays and after about 20 cartridges the stock had cracked on both sides running down from the action !

the owner of the clay ground reckons I could get it repaired under warranty because the gun has done so little and it so immaculate ? Does anyone have any contact details for Browning because I can’t find any on the internet 

I wonder if it’s got anything to do with being sat in a cabinet for so long ?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

The wood has dried out while in storage.

I think the Ground Owner who advised you is wrong.

A warranty will be time based not usage based.

Good luck.

[Royboy]

11 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

The wood has dried out while in storage.

I think the Ground Owner who advised you is wrong.

A warranty will be time based not usage based.

Good luck.

Cheers mate I was thinking it had possibly dried out, I’ll try my luck with browning and if no joy I’ll have to suck it up and buy a stock 🙈

[TIGHTCHOKE]

7 minutes ago, Royboy said:

Cheers mate I was thinking it had possibly dried out, I’ll try my luck with browning and if no joy I’ll have to suck it up and buy a stock 🙈

I reckon that is the ONLY way to look at it, worth a try.  

[Gerry78]

34 minutes ago, Royboy said:

Hi 

I was wondering if anybody could give me any advise about a gun I’ve just purchased.

A friend of mine passed away about 5 years ago and his wife has now decided to sell all his guns and I got first refusal on one,

I got a immaculate Browning A5 limited edition and only 500 made, it’s a 2014 model and I bet it’s not had 100 cartridges through it, I took it out for the first time this morning on clays and after about 20 cartridges the stock had cracked on both sides running down from the action !

the owner of the clay ground reckons I could get it repaired under warranty because the gun has done so little and it so immaculate ? Does anyone have any contact details for Browning because I can’t find any on the internet 

I wonder if it’s got anything to do with being sat in a cabinet for so long ?

Browning very hard to deal with if you could even get your friends relatives to find a receipt try get in contact with the shop he bought it out of I bought the new A5 black synthetic new when they first arrived I had nothing but trouble with it ejection etc ended up taking a hit on it and traded it of a beretta semi auto I’m no expert but I don’t think the wood should be cracking after a round of clays even if it had been sitting in the cabinet for a period of time hopefully you get Sorted 👍

[Royboy]

4 minutes ago, Gerry78 said:

Browning very hard to deal with if you could even get your friends relatives to find a receipt try get in contact with the shop he bought it out of I bought the new A5 black synthetic new when they first arrived I had nothing but trouble with it ejection etc ended up taking a hit on it and traded it of a beretta semi auto I’m no expert but I don’t think the wood should be cracking after a round of clays even if it had been sitting in the cabinet for a period of time hopefully you get Sorted 👍

That’s what the clay ground owner said, he said that if they don’t want to do anything about it tell Browning that your going to write into a magazine about it because Browning don’t like having there name tarred. I’ll try and find a contact number tomorrow and try my luck, surely they would be able to tell that’s it’s been looked after and not done a lot 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

They will also be able to state when it was made and when it was sold.

I am not aware of any warranties that run forever!

[HantsRob]

I think if it's out of warranty and you're not the original owner, you won't have a leg to stand on. Threatening Browning as the second owner on a gun out of warranty due to being a 2014 won't get you anywhere. They may offer a discount if you ask nicely maybe.

Have a look at Manuel Ricardo for a custom made stock. Affordable also and cheaper than some off the shelf stocks. If you need to buy a stock then may as well get one fitted to you? That said for the cost of the gun.... 😞

I feel your pain 😞 It's a pretty gun.

[Royboy]

2 hours ago, HantsRob said:

I think if it's out of warranty and you're not the original owner, you won't have a leg to stand on. Threatening Browning as the second owner on a gun out of warranty due to being a 2014 won't get you anywhere. They may offer a discount if you ask nicely maybe.

Have a look at Manuel Ricardo for a custom made stock. Affordable also and cheaper than some off the shelf stocks. If you need to buy a stock then may as well get one fitted to you? That said for the cost of the gun.... 😞

I feel your pain 😞 It's a pretty gun.

Some very nice looking stocks on there ! I may give them a ring if I don’t get anywhere, I wonder what price they would be ?

[Smokersmith]

3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

 

The wood has dried out while in storage.

 

Assuming you’re right … what would the recommended treatment be to not have it dry out? 

I’m sure there are many thousands of guns that see very little use or maintenance that don’t crack like that.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

4 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:

Assuming you’re right … what would the recommended treatment be to not have it dry out? 

I’m sure there are many thousands of guns that see very little use or maintenance that don’t crack like that.

Using it!

[Old farrier]

33 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:

Assuming you’re right … what would the recommended treatment be to not have it dry out? 

I’m sure there are many thousands of guns that see very little use or maintenance that don’t crack like that.

There are lots of guns that get little use but there taken out of the cabinet checked cleaned wood oiled an a regular basis usually every month or so 

also was it stored butt up or down at a angle 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

SS, the clue is in the original post!  

[Smokersmith]

Should one now avoid the ‘cabinet queens’ !

Not buying it … especially on a relatively new gun.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 minutes ago, Smokersmith said:

Should one now avoid the ‘cabinet queens’ !

Not buying it … especially on a relatively new gun.

It all depends whether timely good maintainance has been carried out regularly.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I worked on an old Beretta recently.

The owner had smashed the forend which I replaced.

The woodwork was extremely dry.

So it was all given a good covering of beeswax, the stock was drinking it in, you could hear the slurping noise!

[wisdom]

Just as a point of interest some of my guns don't come out often at all.There are a variety of finishes on the woodwork on them.Is there a generic treatment that would keep the woodwork fed.To stop excessive drying out.

[Old farrier]

16 minutes ago, wisdom said:

Just as a point of interest some of my guns don't come out often at all.There are a variety of finishes on the woodwork on them.Is there a generic treatment that would keep the woodwork fed.To stop excessive drying out.

That’s probably depending upon the humidity level of your property/gun room 

I prefer to put a coat of walnut oil on mine every few months 

I don’t have any varnished stocks though 

well I do have one but it’s used most weeks in all weather’s 

do you have central heating?

I wonder how many guns come out of cabinets rusty or seized up after 5 years of just being stored with no maintenance 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Old farrier

[wisdom]

6 minutes ago, Old farrier said:

That’s probably depending upon the humidity level of your property/gun room 

I prefer to put a coat of walnut oil on mine every few months 

I don’t have any varnished stocks though 

well I do have one but it’s used most weeks in all weather’s 

do you have central heating?

I wonder how many guns come out of cabinets rusty or seized up after 5 years of just being stored with no maintenance 

I do have central heating but the guns are not near any rads.I have never had any problems at all but on seeing Royboys post.(Something I have never seen and such damage to a very nice gun).I was just looking for advice.Ido look after all my guns metalwork but tbh never gave a thought to the woodwork.Ill look out for Walnut oil.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

9 hours ago, Old farrier said:

I wonder how many guns come out of cabinets rusty or seized up after 5 years of just being stored with no maintenance 

Lots!

Edited December 13, 2021 by TIGHTCHOKE

[JohnfromUK]

8 hours ago, Old farrier said:

That’s probably depending upon the humidity level of your property/gun room 

I prefer to put a coat of walnut oil on mine every few months 

I don’t have any varnished stocks though 

well I do have one but it’s used most weeks in all weather’s 

do you have central heating?

I wonder how many guns come out of cabinets rusty or seized up after 5 years of just being stored with no maintenance 

Agreed.  My old house has fairly high humidity - and never had a problem with any wood, gunstocks, veneered furniture, joinery etc.  I also use a little walnut oil - but maybe once a year or less.  Guns are in a cabinet in a non heated room that gets little direct sun and has a roller blind to exclude direct sun, where temperature is between about 45 to 50F in winter to 70 to 75F in summer.  Minimal daily variations.

Worst damage to antique furniture I have known has been in houses with much heating used for long continuous periods.  The humidity gets very low and wood shrinks, splits, and veneers drop off.  I have seen 1/4" cracks in oak and mahogany furniture in houses with lots of heating and no humidity control.  If you must have a lot of heating in a room with old wooden items, check humidity and keep between 50 and 60% - if necessary hanging a damp tea towel or similar on a radiator if it gets too low.

[HantsRob]

15 hours ago, Royboy said:

Some very nice looking stocks on there ! I may give them a ring if I don’t get anywhere, I wonder what price they would be ?

If you watch the video by Jonny on TGS, YouTube, I think he quoted around £800 for a custom fitted stock, £150 extra for an adjustable comb, and the forend is about £200 on top if you want it to match. 

[Old farrier]

Pretty sure you can get a second hand one they made a lot of these guns 

pretty standard stock 

you maybe surprised if you phone browning 

obviously higher grade wood costs more 

try wabbitbosher on here 👍

[tignme]

I bought a 2 month old A5 in may. i queried warranty and rfd says only applies to gun from new although he did say any serious problem he would send back to browning under first owners name.

Its going back on shelf.I only use steel cartridges and shoot 24 grams a lot.This gun does not like less than 32 grams although some top brands 28s work.

I have in the region of 6k in 24s so no brainer.

[enfieldspares]

Cracked stocks can be caused by someone having taken the stock off (usually to see what's inside) and then when putting it back on not ensuring that it's gone on correctly and any relevant nuts, bolts, screws and etc. correctly replaced and to the correct torque. It can also be due to over heavy loads and AFAIK Browning specifically also (regardless of load) say that steel shot should not be used in their guns.