oldypigeonpopper Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 All the major suppliers web sites have crashed yesterday due to the over whelming number of UK residents trying to give a last reading before the prices go up, Phone lines crashed to, pleased be prepared , if possible take a photo of your readings, with time and date so you have evidence in case of any hassle with your supplier, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Its a handy way to save some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: All the major suppliers web sites have crashed yesterday due to the over whelming number of UK residents trying to give a last reading before the prices go up, Phone lines crashed to, pleased be prepared , if possible take a photo of your readings, with time and date so you have evidence in case of any hassle with your supplier, Just done mine EDF back online 👍 11 minutes ago, oowee said: Its a handy way to save some money. Hello, taking readings today should help to stop any mix up between old and new energy prices, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Mine is done via a Smart Meter so has a constant indication of what I have used and what they will bill me for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Done mine at 8.30 last night - had a few errors initially but then went on ok and just checked and it did go on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Mine is done via a Smart Meter so has a constant indication of what I have used and what they will bill me for. Ours too. much simpler and no monthly reading of the dual rate meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Mine is done via a Smart Meter so has a constant indication of what I have used and what they will bill me for. Hello, EDF keep on at me to get one , 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 I had request for readings from Octopus (regular end of month request and I am currently on a fixed price contract) - no problems at all with submitting via the usual website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPhantom Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 I couldn't submit readings yesterday on EON's website. Ending up ringing them and giving them over the phone. They were having 'technical problems'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 i take it ...prices will continue to rise ...everyone will be in debt.....sky will go out of buisness as people wont have the money for subsrition...phone companies will go to the wall......hire purchase cars will all be snatched back............. we will be paying £5 quid for a potatoe and eating grass......... is that when the market will re-set itself or will the govt step in first....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, ditchman said: i take it ...prices will continue to rise ...everyone will be in debt.....sky will go out of buisness as people wont have the money for subsrition...phone companies will go to the wall......hire purchase cars will all be snatched back............. we will be paying £5 quid for a potatoe and eating grass......... is that when the market will re-set itself or will the govt step in first....... Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Brexit Stop swearing that cost me £72.60 yesterday and two days lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Well it is approaching 14:30 and I have so far spent £2:47 on Gas and electricity today. Some heating this morning to warm the house and two loads of washing done. It's starting to get expensive to live. Edited April 1, 2022 by TIGHTCHOKE Image added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Smart meter owners must be kicking themselves on a day like today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Just now, oowee said: Smart meter owners must be kicking themselves on a day like today. You can still be on a fixed price contract with a Smart meter. The decision to have a variable (and with Smart possibly variable with demand?) is the customers, and you can still have a 12 month or 24 month fixed price (or at least you could when I last renewed my contract). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: You can still be on a fixed price contract with a Smart meter. The decision to have a variable (and with Smart possibly variable with demand?) is the customers, and you can still have a 12 month or 24 month fixed price (or at least you could when I last renewed my contract). Yep but you can't submit your own reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well it is approaching 14:30 and I have so far spent £2:47 on Gas and electricity today. Some heating this morning to warm the house and two loads of washing done. It's starting to get expensive to live. ive been in this here bungalow for a month now........ nice and warm (infact too warm)....the figures work out at £3.20/day....heating /hot water/ and electricity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: You can still be on a fixed price contract with a Smart meter. The decision to have a variable (and with Smart possibly variable with demand?) is the customers, and you can still have a 12 month or 24 month fixed price (or at least you could when I last renewed my contract). I am. 58 minutes ago, oowee said: Yep but you can't submit your own reading. Yes you can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I am. Yes you can! Although being on a fixed price (which I am too) not much point in sending in a reading as the price is the same per KW every month. I do send in readings because although I have a Smart electricity meter, I don't have a Smart gas meter - apparently wrong size pipes (which in fact means man who came to fit it was 'unqualified' to work on that pipe size). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Although being on a fixed price (which I am too) not much point in sending in a reading as the price is the same per KW every month. I do send in readings because although I have a Smart electricity meter, I don't have a Smart gas meter - apparently wrong size pipes (which in fact means man who came to fit it was 'unqualified' to work on that pipe size). Oh absolutely, when the Smart Meter is working it does it all for you. Unfortunately my EON version has been a sod twice now, but they have fixed it remotely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I am. Yes you can! Never knew that. 35 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Although being on a fixed price (which I am too) not much point in sending in a reading as the price is the same per KW every month. I do send in readings because although I have a Smart electricity meter, I don't have a Smart gas meter - apparently wrong size pipes (which in fact means man who came to fit it was 'unqualified' to work on that pipe size). Are they two separate meters normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Just now, oowee said: Are they two separate meters normally? Yes. The old meters were quite separate for gas and electricity. I believe it works like this; The electricity meter is the 'hub'. Because it is powered - i.e. it actually uses a small amount of mains electricity (allegedly from the un-metered side) to power its electronics and reporting transmitter/receiver that communicates with the provider (radio network like but not GSM ), it is the main central point of the system and the 'master'. The gas meter (where fitted) is a slave unit and is battery powered only. It communicates only to (and to the provider through) the electricity meter, which then relays on the gas data. The electricity meter also drives the signal (including relaying the gas data) to the in house display which tells you the bad news about how much you are using. Electricity usage is reported every minute or so, but I believe (being battery powered) gas is much less often (maybe hourly?) In my case I was booked to have both done, but when 'engineer' turned up my gas meter was of a type and pipe size on which he was apparently not qualified to work. Hence - despite repeated following up, I am only smart on the electricity side and gas is still an old read and send in manually type system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: Yes. The old meters were quite separate for gas and electricity. I believe it works like this; The electricity meter is the 'hub'. Because it is powered - i.e. it actually uses a small amount of mains electricity (allegedly from the un-metered side) to power its electronics and reporting transmitter/receiver that communicates with the provider (radio network like but not GSM ), it is the main central point of the system and the 'master'. The gas meter (where fitted) is a slave unit and is battery powered only. It communicates only to (and to the provider through) the electricity meter, which then relays on the gas data. The electricity meter also drives the signal (including relaying the gas data) to the in house display which tells you the bad news about how much you are using. Electricity usage is reported every minute or so, but I believe (being battery powered) gas is much less often (maybe hourly?) In my case I was booked to have both done, but when 'engineer' turned up my gas meter was of a type and pipe size on which he was apparently not qualified to work. Hence - despite repeated following up, I am only smart on the electricity side and gas is still an old read and send in manually type system. The original smart meter were not so smart as they are unable to control appliances. Those in the second roll out are far better. I have heard that with the older style meter that they wear in your favour with age. I wonder if that true with the latest stuff? Either way when prices are moving significantly its better to be in control of your own data rather than have it the meter read directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Water an electricity have been and still are relatively cheap. Turn the tap on and water and ours is on a meter and runs at around £50 a quarter ... less than a pound a day. My electricty bill has just gone up but still worked out over 12 months still cheap when I can just flick a switch and have power. My heating oil last year was around £800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 minute ago, oowee said: Either way when prices are moving significantly its better to be in control of your own data rather than have it the meter read directly. If you are on a variable tariff, yes. However - since mine is fixed - 'when' they get to learn about how much you have used is immaterial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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