Fixed Choke 3/4 Full

[madge998]

So, I mainly shoot either 3/8 LM or 1/2 Mod and I'm looking at a gun which is a fixed 3/4 and Full, my question is how much tighter actually is it in the grand scheme of things. Is it going to be a big disadvantage for Sporting or Sport trap 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

ONLY the Pattern Plate can tell you!

[madge998]

3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

ONLY the Pattern Plate can tell you!

Is there any videos etc kicking around?

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

You will have to go to a pattern plate.

[Gordon R]

The patterns are unique to the gun and whatever shell you are using. I use 3/8 and 3/8 in a trap gun, but have a couple of 3/4 and full guns. I haven't managed to shoot sporting as well with either of them, using the same shells, so I assume that the tighter chokes are a disadvantage. That said, my last round of skeet was a 24/25 with full and full.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Gun fit and a good mount are far more important than the degree of choking.

[Gordon R]

Agreed.

[madge998]

Thank You all 

[enfieldspares]

1 hour ago, madge998 said:

So, I mainly shoot either 3/8 LM or 1/2 Mod and I'm looking at a gun which is a fixed 3/4 and Full, my question is how much tighter actually is it in the grand scheme of things. Is it going to be a big disadvantage for Sporting or Sport trap 

Game shooting it is said by another is like billiards. It is the easy shots that rack up the big scores. In all my game guns I want no more than IMP and IMP in both barrels. Even if walking up "loose quarter" is enough. If I want a tighter pattern I'll shoot 1 1/8 ounce loads.

For clays 28 gram is the maximum load however. But a miss is a miss. Whether that be at a clay at four yards or at forty yards. It's all well and good killing those forty yard birds but if then miss the four yard birds? 

So what I'm really saying is comes down to "horses for courses" if you are on a sporting or sport trap layout where there's no bird under (say) twenty-five yards you'd get away with 3/4 and FULL if you are a good shot. On closer birds you may well miss.

Me? I need all the help I can get so I've always thought of 1/2 as the most choke I'm comfortable with. There's no point having a choke that will well kill a bird at a long range that you'd more than likely miss it at anyway!

Finally think ahead! That 3/4 and FULL may be expensive at £60 a barrel to hone out to 1/2 if steel shot becomes mandatory and you follow what the two Proof House advice is regarding choke and steel shot?

Edited September 10, 2022 by enfieldspares

[HantsRob]

1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

You will have to go to a pattern plate.

Do you do this with your guns to "become one with it" and see how high it shoots? Or do you rely more on gunfit and expertise to get at 'em?

I feel pattern plates a bit of a dark art of bull****, unless you pattern a lot of carts from a brand rather than relying on production from being identical. Gunfit will be my next investment if I can find my forever after gun,,,,, or one that I at least am happy to stick with! aha

[bornfree]

I changed from a multichoke gun to a fixed 3/4 full trap gun and my scores went up a fraction. I shot teals crows and long crossers much better but I really struggled on close rabbits and driven. 

[Scully]

As a bloke once said to me ‘ you’re either on em or you’re not’. He’s right. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

9 hours ago, HantsRob said:

Do you do this with your guns to "become one with it" and see how high it shoots? Or do you rely more on gunfit and expertise to get at 'em?

I feel pattern plates a bit of a dark art of ********, unless you pattern a lot of carts from a brand rather than relying on production from being identical. Gunfit will be my next investment if I can find my forever after gun,,,,, or one that I at least am happy to stick with! aha

We can discuss this at length, but a good reliable gun mount is first, then gun fit and then lots and lots of practice.

[Johnny English]

I shoot 1/4 and 1/4 in my beretta and it covers sporting and sportrap more than adequately. A good sporting score isn't made by shooting the occasional 4 targets at 60 yards, it's done by shooting the other 96% of targets well that 1/4 is more than open enough for. I'm certainly not good enough to shoot 3/4 and full and sure it would cost me targets over the course of a round.

[Gunman]

14 hours ago, madge998 said:

So, I mainly shoot either 3/8 LM or 1/2 Mod and I'm looking at a gun which is a fixed 3/4 and Full, my question is how much tighter actually is it in the grand scheme of things. Is it going to be a big disadvantage for Sporting or Sport trap 

A lot will depend on the cartridge , shot size and powder load and velocity . Shooting at a pattern plate is a guide but bear in mind a clay or bird is moving , a pattern plate sits still .

One cartridge will give different patterns to another . I times past a gun would be ordered to shoot a set pattern at a set distance with a set cartridge . 

Also remember that choke size is not a set measurement ,different  makers and Countries have used there own set of sizes so one 3/4 may be some one else's full for example . Different bores have different degrees of constriction .

Dont get confused with choke terms  either eg, in the US ,Skeet is Imp/Cyl . Imp/Cyl  is 1/4 . Mod is 3/4 , Imp Mod is 1/2 . 

Edited September 11, 2022 by Gunman

[Westward]

16 hours ago, madge998 said:

So, I mainly shoot either 3/8 LM or 1/2 Mod and I'm looking at a gun which is a fixed 3/4 and Full, my question is how much tighter actually is it in the grand scheme of things. Is it going to be a big disadvantage for Sporting or Sport trap 

So which gun is it? As gunman says, US choke sizes are different, especially those tighter than 1/2 (M).

I have measured the chokes on my Guerini and the Full is 30 thou which in UK terms is 3/4, and the 3/4 choke (IM) measures 25 thou which we would regard as 5/8. 

[wymberley]

Although I think that you very probably have, did you take into account the actual barrel diameter and is the gun a game or sporting version?

[madge998]

On 11/09/2022 at 11:15, Westward said:

So which gun is it? As gunman says, US choke sizes are different, especially those tighter than 1/2 (M).

I have measured the chokes on my Guerini and the Full is 30 thou which in UK terms is 3/4, and the 3/4 choke (IM) measures 25 thou which we would regard as 5/8. 

It is a new Beretta 694 Trap gun