triumphant59 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 My renewal is due in late Jan. I took my medical record request form to my doctors almost 2 weeks ago and paid the required fee. I expect to get an email from Lincs police when they receive the form from my doctors but haven’t received one yet. Should I chase my doctor or be patient for a while longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, triumphant59 said: My renewal is due in late Jan. I took my medical record request form to my doctors almost 2 weeks ago and paid the required fee. I expect to get an email from Lincs police when they receive the form from my doctors but haven’t received one yet. Should I chase my doctor or be patient for a while longer? Requesting your medical mecords is free of charge, and your GP has one month, by law, to give them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) Are you after your medical records or the tick box form the doctor fills in. like this one..https://www.southyorks.police.uk/media/8094/firearms-form-201-medical-profroma.pdf Edited October 23, 2022 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) i took my forms to the doctor,and picked them up in 2 days, and sent them with the renewal forms, Edited October 23, 2022 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, mossy835 said: i took my forms to the doctor,and picked them up in 2 days, and sent them with the renewal forms, You were lucky, my doctor had mine over 3 months. Luckily I got them to them well in advance, I was told by my FEO to get my renewal in early and they would process it early, It ended up going in just in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said: Requesting your medical mecords is free of charge, and your GP has one month, by law, to give them to you. Hope you’re correct re 1 month law 1 hour ago, old'un said: Are you after your medical records or the tick box form the doctor fills in. like this one..https://www.southyorks.police.uk/media/8094/firearms-form-201-medical-profroma.pdf As your link 36 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: You were lucky, my doctor had mine over 3 months. Luckily I got them to them well in advance, I was told by my FEO to get my renewal in early and they would process it early, It ended up going in just in time. Lincs police state I can’t put renewal in until doctor has completed medical form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said: Requesting your medical mecords is free of charge, and your GP has one month, by law, to give them to you. Exactly. Send a copy of this to the Lincs Police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, steve_b_wales said: Requesting your medical mecords is free of charge, and your GP has one month, by law, to give them to you. The free and one month is if requesting a copy of your medical records under the General Data Protection Regulations GDPR and is irrelevant with regards to the medical history form the police require completed by the applicants GP. Within GDPR both the fee and one month are not binding under extenuating circumstances a fee can be required and the one month can be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, triumphant59 said: Lincs police state I can’t put renewal in until doctor has completed medical form? it was the same here in Kent, I meant got them in early to the doctors. But the doctor took so long filling in the forms, I just managed to get renewal in, in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, triumphant59 said: My renewal is due in late Jan. I took my medical record request form to my doctors almost 2 weeks ago and paid the required fee. I expect to get an email from Lincs police when they receive the form from my doctors but haven’t received one yet. Should I chase my doctor or be patient for a while longer? Just ring your ring Doctors and chase them up and say you will collect them when done.Then you know you have them. I did that and sent photos of them with my online renewal. Edited October 23, 2022 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) Come to think of it, I think the latest forms are sent straight to the Police. It's on the form, I believe. Edit- it can be either Quote Your response should be sent to the local police firearms licensing department by secured NHS email, or sent by post. Alternatively, please contact me so that I can collect it. If the response is given to me to supply to the police they may contact you to confirm the details. Edited October 23, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Quote The free and one month is if requesting a copy of your medical records under the General Data Protection Regulations GDPR and is irrelevant with regards to the medical history form the police require completed by the applicants GP. Within GDPR both the fee and one month are not binding under extenuating circumstances a fee can be required and the one month can be extended. This. If your GP has agreed to provide medical records, it isn't covered by the legislation where you make a Subject Access Request for your own records under the Date Protection Act - which gives them one month. As the records are computerised they can't claim the request is excessive and get another month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 There is also this - Quote When the medical information is being provided to the police by a doctor from a private company, the doctor must receive the applicant’s medical information direct from the GP practice and not via the applicant. If you are using a third party company, like MedCert to do the report, the request for your medical records has to come from them, direct to your doctors surgery. You cannot get your records and send them over. It's to stop you editing your records before you send them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: There is also this - If you are using a third party company, like MedCert to do the report, the request for your medical records has to come from them, direct to your doctors surgery. You cannot get your records and send them over. It's to stop you editing your records before you send them. I requested my medical records from my GP. I then sent them, together with the Pro Forma, to a GP that was recommended by BASC. After looking at my records, he then sent the Pro Forma to the Police and sent my records back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 10 hours ago, triumphant59 said: Hope you’re correct re 1 month law As your link Lincs police state I can’t put renewal in until doctor has completed medical form? Taken from the PDF medical report link…. How to respondYour response should be sent to the local police firearms licensing department by secured NHS email, or sent bypost. Alternatively, please contact me so that I can collect it. If the response is given to me to supply to the policethey may contact you to confirm the details. So what instruction did you give your doctor, you collect them when ready or your doctor sends them direct to the police firearms licensing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 it’s just a game, with so many applicants and so many GPs not really engaging at all or just in doing it for the money then the process will not always be as the police dictate. You can bet that in some instances the GP will give the applicant the report to posts, or a printed copy of the medical history (not all is always on computes) to pass to a third party GP (as happened with a friend). Remember the end goal for the Police is a report in the file that god for bid should the worst happens it covers the Chief Constables backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, steve_b_wales said: I requested my medical records from my GP. I then sent them, together with the Pro Forma, to a GP that was recommended by BASC. After looking at my records, he then sent the Pro Forma to the Police and sent my records back to me. That quote was taken off the Kent GP proforma document. It wasn't on the one I had when I renewed, it has been added since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Strange isn't it. I have never had a 'form' to complete and never failed to have my FAC and SGS renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Strange isn't it. I have never had a 'form' to complete and never failed to have my FAC and SGS renewed. If I remember correctly in another thread about the same issue your renewal fell just before the new rules/forms came into force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, old'un said: If I remember correctly in another thread about the same issue your renewal fell just before the new rules/forms came into force. Well there has been discussion about medical records for donkey's yonks, never ever been asked for such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Walker570 said: Well there has been discussion about medical records for donkey's yonks, never ever been asked for such. No, because all you needed to do on the old form was tick a box that gave the police permission to contact your doctor should they wish to, the old system never required you to supply a medical report from your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dessyb Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 my doctors took 2wks to fill form out i posted it my self cost me £80 9wks later got my certs back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Walker570 said: Strange isn't it. I have never had a 'form' to complete and never failed to have my FAC and SGS renewed. Things have changed, they are required everywhere now. Next renewal you will be asked to provide a medical proforma completed by a doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 So when did all this change then? We seem to have been having this discussion for eons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Walker570 said: So when did all this change then? We seem to have been having this discussion for eons. Think it came into force last year, November 2021, everyone now has to get their doctor to fill the medical proforma...like this one.. https://www.southyorks.police.uk/media/8094/firearms-form-201-medical-profroma.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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