a little ice on the river yesterday

[simcgunner]

 

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Edited December 23, 2022 by simcgunner

[Walker570]

Love that dog. Give him/her a Christmas cuddle from the UK. Great picture and here the media are trembling because we had about 10cm of snow in London..

 

[Morkin]

Yes good picture 👍 , Have a lovely time 🎄🎄🎄🍷mate 

[Rob85]

Lovely picture, lovely scenery, looks the kind of day I would be happy just to be there taking in the world with the pup even if I didn't get a shot off. 🙂

[ditchman]

is the dog saying .........."i hope to god i dont have to get in that bloody icey water..........."

[simcgunner]

Not sure about her, but I was thinking exactly that. Ditchman.

Edited December 23, 2022 by simcgunner

[holloway]

1 hour ago, simcgunner said:

Not sure about her, but I was thinking exactly that. Ditchman.

Nice looking fowling piece ,what is it ?

[Charlie Anderson]

Nice looking gun nice looking dog

[marsh man]

13 hours ago, simcgunner said:

 

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A sure sign of contentment , what type of fowl were you after and do your dog feel the cold with it's fairly thin coat ?   by the way , Great photo and have a good Christmas 

[simcgunner]

The Gun is a kind of rare gun the AH FOX company of Philadelphia only made 48 of these. It is a heavy 12 ga( almost 10 lbs)

with extra heavy barrels and very tight choke.bored to shoot heavy shot loads out of its 3 inch chambers. I keep a close eye on my dog if she starts shivering  we call it a day. Kind of a slow day  1 black duck and 1 Canada goose.

Edited December 23, 2022 by simcgunner

[Charlie Anderson]

Superb

[holloway]

13 hours ago, simcgunner said:

The Gun is a kind of rare gun the AH FOX company of Philadelphia only made 48 of these. It is a heavy 12 ga( almost 10 lbs)

with extra heavy barrels and very tight choke.bored to shoot heavy shot loads out of its 3 inch chambers. I keep a close eye on my dog if she starts shivering  we call it a day. Kind of a slow day  1 black duck and 1 Canada goose.

A proper gun ,what ammo do you put through her.?

[simcgunner]

There is a company here that makes bismuth wildfowl ammo this is 1.25 ounce of #3 shot

[Pushandpull]

Your piece is seems to be a cousin of Nash Buckingham's famous gun "Bo Whoop". Did they make a series based on his gun or was his a high end model from that production run ?

[simcgunner]

Nash Buckingham used a regular Superfox of which there were there were about 500 made. Savage Arms acquired The Fox brand and name and continued to make the Fox gun as before but dropped the Superfox. They used the last of the extra large frames and special heavy barrels to make a run of Guns (48) put together and resemble their Popular Stirlingworth model.Its a Superfox in Stirlingworth livery. Incidentally Nash Buckinghams famous lost Superfox (named Bo whoop)was recently found . it brought over. $250000 us dollars at auction and the buyer donated it to the Ducks Unlimited museum in Nashville Tenn. Its been taken out once for a duck hunt at the old Beaverdam duck club. 

[holloway]

Thanks for all of the info ,very interesting.

[simcgunner]

On 24/12/2022 at 12:51, Pushandpull said:

Your piece is seems to be a cousin of Nash Buckingham's famous gun "Bo Whoop". Did they make a series based on his gun or was his a high end model from that production run ?

the most famous American Duck gun Bo Whoop

REX NELSON: The legend of Bo Whoop

by Rex Nelson | January 27, 2016 at 2:46 a.m.

2

 

 

 

Another Arkansas duck season enters its final days. It has been a season of challenges--ducks were spread thin due to so much water, and a warm December kept duck populations well north of the state.

No matter how many ducks are killed in a season, hunting remains an important component of this state's cultural fabric. And it goes well beyond the actual hunt. Like many Arkansans, I enjoy collecting wooden decoys, prints of duck hunting scenes and books about duck hunting. One of my favorite writers is Nash Buckingham, a Tennessean who died in 1971 at age 90. Buckingham wrote nine books and hundreds of magazine articles.

Arkansas figures prominently in an incident involving Buckingham. On Dec. 1, 1948, Buckingham and a friend named Clifford Green were headed back to Green's car following a duck hunt near Clarendon. A 2010 article in Garden & Gun magazine described what happened: "Buckingham, then 68 years old, was at the time one of the most famous writers in America, a sort of Mark Twain for the hunting set. At Green's car, they met a warden, who asked to see their hunting licenses. The warden quickly realized that he was in the presence of the celebrated writer. He asked Buckingham if he could see the most famous shotgun in America, Buckingham's talisman, an inanimate object that the writer had referred to--in loving, animistic terms--in a great number of his stories. The nine-pound, nine-ounce gun was a side-by-side 12-gauge Super Fox custom made by the A.H. Fox Gun Co. in Philadelphia.

"The carbon steel plates on the frame were ornately engraved with a leafy scroll. The gun company's signature fox, nose in the air, was engraved on the floorplate. The barrels had been bored by the renowned barrel maker Burt Becker and delivered 90 percent patterns of shot at 40 feet, an uncharacteristically tight load for a waterfowling shotgun. It was named Bo Whoop. A hunting buddy had designated it so, after the distinct deep, bellowing sound it made upon discharge. The warden chatted up Buckingham, handling and admiring the writer's gun, like a kid talking to Babe Ruth while holding the slugger's bat. At some point during the conversation, the warden laid the gun down on the car's back fender. Buckingham and Green soon bid the warden farewell and drove off, forgetting about Bo Whoop until many miles into their trip home. In a panic, they turned around and retraced their route, painstakingly eyeing every inch of the road, to no avail."

Buckingham spent the next several years searching for Bo Whoop. He wrote about the loss of the gun and took out ads in Arkansas newspapers. The magazine article noted: "He befriended local wardens and police, appealing to them to be on the lookout. He would never find it. But in the process of its loss and failed recovery, its legend grew in stature. Bo Whoop became a metaphor for other things gone and never to be retrieved, like one's youth or the American wilderness."

Like Elvis sightings in later years, there were regular Bo Whoop sightings. All were false. Finally, two friends gave Buckingham a Fox shotgun named Bo Whoop II. Unbeknownst to Buckingham, a sawmill foreman in Savannah, Ga., bought a used Fox shotgun with a broken stock for $50 during the 1950s. The foreman's son inherited the shotgun upon his father's death and stuck it in a closet. In 2005, the son brought the gun to a South Carolina gunsmith named Jim Kelly for repairs. Kelly, a student of hunting history, saw "Made for Nash Buckingham" and "By Burt Becker Phila. PA" inscribed on the gun. He had found Bo Whoop.

After having the stock repaired, the owner passed the gun down to his son, who decided to sell it to pay his sick father's medical expenses. It would be auctioned by the James Julia Auction Co. in Maine. In March 2010, an 84-year-old Hal Howard Jr. learned of the impending auction. Howard, a former executive with investment firm T. Rowe Price, had been raised in Memphis. His father was Buckingham's best friend and hunting partner; Hal Howard Jr. was Buckingham's godson. "We hunted in Arkansas together," Howard said. Howard paid $201,250 for Bo Whoop, the third-highest amount ever paid for an American shotgun. A month later, it was announced that Howard was donating Bo Whoop to the Ducks Unlimited national headquarters at Memphis.

What has never been clear is how Bo Whoop got from the woods near Clarendon to Georgia. The shotgun is almost home now, just across the Mississippi River from the duck woods of Arkansas.

I've appeared numerous times on the annual Christmas show that Steve "Wild Man" Wilson of the Arkansas Game & Fish Commission shoots each December at Wiley Meacham's Piney Creek Duck Club. My wife watched the program one year as the hunters stood in cold water while wearing camouflage Santa caps and singing Christmas songs. She asked: "Why do grown men get up in the middle of the night and then act like that?"

We do it for the same reason Nash Buckingham did it all those years ago: To watch the sun rise. To listen to the owls and geese. To exchange stories and give friends a hard time after bad shots. To listen to your hunting companions call the ducks. And, at least at Piney Creek, to go to the outdoor dining area in the woods where someone will be grilling slices of duck and sausage, cutting cheese and putting out crackers and pickles. I can only dream of being able to write as well as a Nash Buckingham. Yet as I stand there in the flooded timber of east Arkansas eating slices of teal on a cracker, I always wax poetic in my mind. What a fine tradition Arkansas duck hunting is.

[Pushandpull]

A grand tale, simcgunner. It ranks with the discovery of the Payne-Gallwey's double punt gun in two parts and their rejoining.

Perhaps one day BB's Tolley 8-bore will come to light - that's a story for another day.

[Gerry78]

Fantastic photo my friend 👍

[Krico woodcock]

1 hour ago, simcgunner said:

the most famous American Duck gun Bo Whoop

REX NELSON: The legend of Bo Whoop

by Rex Nelson | January 27, 2016 at 2:46 a.m.

2

 

 

 

Another Arkansas duck season enters its final days. It has been a season of challenges--ducks were spread thin due to so much water, and a warm December kept duck populations well north of the state.

No matter how many ducks are killed in a season, hunting remains an important component of this state's cultural fabric. And it goes well beyond the actual hunt. Like many Arkansans, I enjoy collecting wooden decoys, prints of duck hunting scenes and books about duck hunting. One of my favorite writers is Nash Buckingham, a Tennessean who died in 1971 at age 90. Buckingham wrote nine books and hundreds of magazine articles.

Arkansas figures prominently in an incident involving Buckingham. On Dec. 1, 1948, Buckingham and a friend named Clifford Green were headed back to Green's car following a duck hunt near Clarendon. A 2010 article in Garden & Gun magazine described what happened: "Buckingham, then 68 years old, was at the time one of the most famous writers in America, a sort of Mark Twain for the hunting set. At Green's car, they met a warden, who asked to see their hunting licenses. The warden quickly realized that he was in the presence of the celebrated writer. He asked Buckingham if he could see the most famous shotgun in America, Buckingham's talisman, an inanimate object that the writer had referred to--in loving, animistic terms--in a great number of his stories. The nine-pound, nine-ounce gun was a side-by-side 12-gauge Super Fox custom made by the A.H. Fox Gun Co. in Philadelphia.

"The carbon steel plates on the frame were ornately engraved with a leafy scroll. The gun company's signature fox, nose in the air, was engraved on the floorplate. The barrels had been bored by the renowned barrel maker Burt Becker and delivered 90 percent patterns of shot at 40 feet, an uncharacteristically tight load for a waterfowling shotgun. It was named Bo Whoop. A hunting buddy had designated it so, after the distinct deep, bellowing sound it made upon discharge. The warden chatted up Buckingham, handling and admiring the writer's gun, like a kid talking to Babe Ruth while holding the slugger's bat. At some point during the conversation, the warden laid the gun down on the car's back fender. Buckingham and Green soon bid the warden farewell and drove off, forgetting about Bo Whoop until many miles into their trip home. In a panic, they turned around and retraced their route, painstakingly eyeing every inch of the road, to no avail."

Buckingham spent the next several years searching for Bo Whoop. He wrote about the loss of the gun and took out ads in Arkansas newspapers. The magazine article noted: "He befriended local wardens and police, appealing to them to be on the lookout. He would never find it. But in the process of its loss and failed recovery, its legend grew in stature. Bo Whoop became a metaphor for other things gone and never to be retrieved, like one's youth or the American wilderness."

Like Elvis sightings in later years, there were regular Bo Whoop sightings. All were false. Finally, two friends gave Buckingham a Fox shotgun named Bo Whoop II. Unbeknownst to Buckingham, a sawmill foreman in Savannah, Ga., bought a used Fox shotgun with a broken stock for $50 during the 1950s. The foreman's son inherited the shotgun upon his father's death and stuck it in a closet. In 2005, the son brought the gun to a South Carolina gunsmith named Jim Kelly for repairs. Kelly, a student of hunting history, saw "Made for Nash Buckingham" and "By Burt Becker Phila. PA" inscribed on the gun. He had found Bo Whoop.

After having the stock repaired, the owner passed the gun down to his son, who decided to sell it to pay his sick father's medical expenses. It would be auctioned by the James Julia Auction Co. in Maine. In March 2010, an 84-year-old Hal Howard Jr. learned of the impending auction. Howard, a former executive with investment firm T. Rowe Price, had been raised in Memphis. His father was Buckingham's best friend and hunting partner; Hal Howard Jr. was Buckingham's godson. "We hunted in Arkansas together," Howard said. Howard paid $201,250 for Bo Whoop, the third-highest amount ever paid for an American shotgun. A month later, it was announced that Howard was donating Bo Whoop to the Ducks Unlimited national headquarters at Memphis.

What has never been clear is how Bo Whoop got from the woods near Clarendon to Georgia. The shotgun is almost home now, just across the Mississippi River from the duck woods of Arkansas.

I've appeared numerous times on the annual Christmas show that Steve "Wild Man" Wilson of the Arkansas Game & Fish Commission shoots each December at Wiley Meacham's Piney Creek Duck Club. My wife watched the program one year as the hunters stood in cold water while wearing camouflage Santa caps and singing Christmas songs. She asked: "Why do grown men get up in the middle of the night and then act like that?"

We do it for the same reason Nash Buckingham did it all those years ago: To watch the sun rise. To listen to the owls and geese. To exchange stories and give friends a hard time after bad shots. To listen to your hunting companions call the ducks. And, at least at Piney Creek, to go to the outdoor dining area in the woods where someone will be grilling slices of duck and sausage, cutting cheese and putting out crackers and pickles. I can only dream of being able to write as well as a Nash Buckingham. Yet as I stand there in the flooded timber of east Arkansas eating slices of teal on a cracker, I always wax poetic in my mind. What a fine tradition Arkansas duck hunting is.

Brilliant!

[Penelope]

On 29/12/2022 at 16:50, simcgunner said:

the most famous American Duck gun Bo Whoop

REX NELSON: The legend of Bo Whoop

by Rex Nelson | January 27, 2016 at 2:46 a.m.

2

 

 

 

Another Arkansas duck season enters its final days. It has been a season of challenges--ducks were spread thin due to so much water, and a warm December kept duck populations well north of the state.

No matter how many ducks are killed in a season, hunting remains an important component of this state's cultural fabric. And it goes well beyond the actual hunt. Like many Arkansans, I enjoy collecting wooden decoys, prints of duck hunting scenes and books about duck hunting. One of my favorite writers is Nash Buckingham, a Tennessean who died in 1971 at age 90. Buckingham wrote nine books and hundreds of magazine articles.

Arkansas figures prominently in an incident involving Buckingham. On Dec. 1, 1948, Buckingham and a friend named Clifford Green were headed back to Green's car following a duck hunt near Clarendon. A 2010 article in Garden & Gun magazine described what happened: "Buckingham, then 68 years old, was at the time one of the most famous writers in America, a sort of Mark Twain for the hunting set. At Green's car, they met a warden, who asked to see their hunting licenses. The warden quickly realized that he was in the presence of the celebrated writer. He asked Buckingham if he could see the most famous shotgun in America, Buckingham's talisman, an inanimate object that the writer had referred to--in loving, animistic terms--in a great number of his stories. The nine-pound, nine-ounce gun was a side-by-side 12-gauge Super Fox custom made by the A.H. Fox Gun Co. in Philadelphia.

"The carbon steel plates on the frame were ornately engraved with a leafy scroll. The gun company's signature fox, nose in the air, was engraved on the floorplate. The barrels had been bored by the renowned barrel maker Burt Becker and delivered 90 percent patterns of shot at 40 feet, an uncharacteristically tight load for a waterfowling shotgun. It was named Bo Whoop. A hunting buddy had designated it so, after the distinct deep, bellowing sound it made upon discharge. The warden chatted up Buckingham, handling and admiring the writer's gun, like a kid talking to Babe Ruth while holding the slugger's bat. At some point during the conversation, the warden laid the gun down on the car's back fender. Buckingham and Green soon bid the warden farewell and drove off, forgetting about Bo Whoop until many miles into their trip home. In a panic, they turned around and retraced their route, painstakingly eyeing every inch of the road, to no avail."

Buckingham spent the next several years searching for Bo Whoop. He wrote about the loss of the gun and took out ads in Arkansas newspapers. The magazine article noted: "He befriended local wardens and police, appealing to them to be on the lookout. He would never find it. But in the process of its loss and failed recovery, its legend grew in stature. Bo Whoop became a metaphor for other things gone and never to be retrieved, like one's youth or the American wilderness."

Like Elvis sightings in later years, there were regular Bo Whoop sightings. All were false. Finally, two friends gave Buckingham a Fox shotgun named Bo Whoop II. Unbeknownst to Buckingham, a sawmill foreman in Savannah, Ga., bought a used Fox shotgun with a broken stock for $50 during the 1950s. The foreman's son inherited the shotgun upon his father's death and stuck it in a closet. In 2005, the son brought the gun to a South Carolina gunsmith named Jim Kelly for repairs. Kelly, a student of hunting history, saw "Made for Nash Buckingham" and "By Burt Becker Phila. PA" inscribed on the gun. He had found Bo Whoop.

After having the stock repaired, the owner passed the gun down to his son, who decided to sell it to pay his sick father's medical expenses. It would be auctioned by the James Julia Auction Co. in Maine. In March 2010, an 84-year-old Hal Howard Jr. learned of the impending auction. Howard, a former executive with investment firm T. Rowe Price, had been raised in Memphis. His father was Buckingham's best friend and hunting partner; Hal Howard Jr. was Buckingham's godson. "We hunted in Arkansas together," Howard said. Howard paid $201,250 for Bo Whoop, the third-highest amount ever paid for an American shotgun. A month later, it was announced that Howard was donating Bo Whoop to the Ducks Unlimited national headquarters at Memphis.

What has never been clear is how Bo Whoop got from the woods near Clarendon to Georgia. The shotgun is almost home now, just across the Mississippi River from the duck woods of Arkansas.

I've appeared numerous times on the annual Christmas show that Steve "Wild Man" Wilson of the Arkansas Game & Fish Commission shoots each December at Wiley Meacham's Piney Creek Duck Club. My wife watched the program one year as the hunters stood in cold water while wearing camouflage Santa caps and singing Christmas songs. She asked: "Why do grown men get up in the middle of the night and then act like that?"

We do it for the same reason Nash Buckingham did it all those years ago: To watch the sun rise. To listen to the owls and geese. To exchange stories and give friends a hard time after bad shots. To listen to your hunting companions call the ducks. And, at least at Piney Creek, to go to the outdoor dining area in the woods where someone will be grilling slices of duck and sausage, cutting cheese and putting out crackers and pickles. I can only dream of being able to write as well as a Nash Buckingham. Yet as I stand there in the flooded timber of east Arkansas eating slices of teal on a cracker, I always wax poetic in my mind. What a fine tradition Arkansas duck hunting is.

A cracking tale.

On 29/12/2022 at 17:05, Pushandpull said:

A grand tale, simcgunner. It ranks with the discovery of the Payne-Gallwey's double punt gun in two parts and their rejoining.

Perhaps one day BB's Tolley 8-bore will come to light - that's a story for another day.

Now that would be something.

[simcgunner]

not to belabor the subject but if you look at utube vid of Ducks Unlimited 2016 Bo Whoop hunt the first guy to shoot the gun knocked down two mallards with the first shot and another with the second. The next fellow also shot a double. so the old girl still is a grand old shotgun. Ducks unlimited raises money to support conservation of wildfowl and auctions off this hunt every few years and it brings in very serious money to the organization. one of the most famous duck decoy carvers in the states bought the hunt at auction for himself and his sons a few years before his passing. I can't think of a better way for a man that devoted his life to waterfowling and all that goes with it to spend his hard-earned cash.

[marsh man]

6 hours ago, simcgunner said:

not to belabor the subject but if you look at utube vid of Ducks Unlimited 2016 Bo Whoop hunt the first guy to shoot the gun knocked down two mallards with the first shot and another with the second. The next fellow also shot a double. so the old girl still is a grand old shotgun. Ducks unlimited raises money to support conservation of wildfowl and auctions off this hunt every few years and it brings in very serious money to the organization. one of the most famous duck decoy carvers in the states bought the hunt at auction for himself and his sons a few years before his passing. I can't think of a better way for a man that devoted his life to waterfowling and all that goes with it to spend his hard-earned cash.

Your posts are always full of interest and it's good to see how things are done over the other side of the ( pond ).

You mentioned one of the most famous duck carvers , I once went on holiday to the west coast of the U S A , one day we stopped at Carmel and one of the high class shops sold nothing but wildfowl decoys and a few odds and ends of models of ducks and geese.

In one of the glass dome cases was a carving of three Teal rising from the water and attached to each other by the wing tips , this was more life like than the real thing , tottally incredible , the shop assistant was very helpful and took it out of the case to show me , I would imagine it was worth more than my house , but rather than tell her I could not afford it , I told her it would not fit in my case as we had to travel back to the U K in a few days time , I ended up buying two metal bottle openers , one of a drake Mallard and the other one was a Black Labrador , they were a bit cheaper at a fiver apiece 

[Gerry78]

9 hours ago, simcgunner said:

not to belabor the subject but if you look at utube vid of Ducks Unlimited 2016 Bo Whoop hunt the first guy to shoot the gun knocked down two mallards with the first shot and another with the second. The next fellow also shot a double. so the old girl still is a grand old shotgun. Ducks unlimited raises money to support conservation of wildfowl and auctions off this hunt every few years and it brings in very serious money to the organization. one of the most famous duck decoy carvers in the states bought the hunt at auction for himself and his sons a few years before his passing. I can't think of a better way for a man that devoted his life to waterfowling and all that goes with it to spend his hard-earned cash.

Seen that video myself it was fantastic Good to see in a age of modern semi automatics pumps etc the old side by side with a bit of history can still do the job 👍👍

[simcgunner]

On 29/12/2022 at 12:05, Pushandpull said:

A grand tale, simcgunner. It ranks with the discovery of the Payne-Gallwey's double punt gun in two parts and their rejoining.

Perhaps one day BB's Tolley 8-bore will come to light - that's a story for another day.

I don't know anything about BBs Tolley. can someone tell me about him and his Tolley please.