Dekers Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hi Everyone, I need the help of you clever people please. My FN19, about 22 years old and running around 26Ft Lb is not cocking. This has started, and got worse over about the last 4-5 magazines (around 36 shots). It works sometimes and then you try and cock it, and no matter how hard and far back you pull the bolt, it simply will no cock. I struggle for a while and then it will maybe cock properly 2 or 3 times and then simply refuse to cock again. I don't pretend to be a Falcon expert but this seems strange to me, can anyone help me solve this problem please? Gun is pretty useless as it stands, and as it is a work tool it is a big problem. Quick removal from stock isn't showing any obvious issue. Help PLEASE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Make sure your trigger housing is tight. then it could be the cocking dog which means a strip down 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hi have you checked the screws on the trigger are not lose as that can stop the rifle from cocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Can you see the trigger sear ? Sounds like its not engaging, you say its got worse over the last few magazines i'm betting its worn with a rounded edge. Try altering the amount the sear engages the sear if what i think it is it will eventually engage. But it should really be looked at by a pro. I'm no expert just like taking things apart and fiddling. Edited February 24, 2023 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Thanks for the replies but you are talking a language I don't understand. Can you spell it out for me or tell me somewhere I can take it. Many thanks! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Increase trigger pull weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 If you are not confident in working on it yourself, contact @logunator on here. He completely transformed my gun at a very reasonable cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Thanks again for replies, trying logunator! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharsus Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just got my titan manitou back from logunator last night. Basically the same rifle had trigger trouble, fixed in a few days. Spot on work by Mick 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Dekers said: Thanks again for replies, trying logunator! 👍 Have you managed to get in touch? Let me know if not and I'll text him, your gun will come back as good as new. I can understand you wanting something new, but for a fraction of the cost your Falcon will be sorted, then get something else when you have more time to search for what you want, there always look to be some real bargains in FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mice! said: Have you managed to get in touch? Let me know if not and I'll text him, your gun will come back as good as new. I can understand you wanting something new, but for a fraction of the cost your Falcon will be sorted, then get something else when you have more time to search for what you want, there always look to be some real bargains in FAC. Yes, he's been back to me, having a chat later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Dekers said: Yes, he's been back to me, having a chat later! If you want something more modern I think fx is probably the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dekers said: Yes, he's been back to me, having a chat later! 👍👍 1 minute ago, Rimfireboy said: If you want something more modern I think fx is probably the way to go. The certainly are some stunning guns now in FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 I have some issues with my Falcon, but one BIG issue is the indexing problem. Have any of you tried these, apparently they do away completely with the OEM Falcon indexing system and are completely independent. I don't quite follow how, but if they work that is a big problem solved with mine! Self Indexing Nylon Magazine for Multi Shot Falcon and RWS Air Rifles – SMWEngineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 If its from SMW it should work fine, probably just takes a few goes to get the hand of loading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, Dekers said: I have some issues with my Falcon, but one BIG issue is the indexing problem. Have any of you tried these, apparently they do away completely with the OEM Falcon indexing system and are completely independent. I don't quite follow how, but if they work that is a big problem solved with mine! Self Indexing Nylon Magazine for Multi Shot Falcon and RWS Air Rifles – SMWEngineering Magic, can't fault them.😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, snarepeg said: Magic, can't fault them.😊👍 Great!! Have you removed your indexing wheel??? Ok, if logunator can fix my other issues we may be in business then, and I may be able to salvage mine, rather than starting from scratch and buying a new FAC Air. This is just one tool in the box, it doesn't get a great deal of use, but I have a few jobs it is essential for, I feel lost without it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Rimfireboy said: If you want something more modern I think fx is probably the way to go. If he’s struggling with stripping trigger on a falcon, no chance of setting up an fac FX impact 😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 There is a small alen key screw in the bolt next to indexing cog. Loosen this cycle the bolt through magazine retighten when bolt is down. The magazine will have to be set with the hole fully open not half way like it is when mag is full This will reset the bolt to magazine hpefully. The bolt should cycle freely then. Common issue with all moving parts loosening a bit The plastic magazine aren't great alloy ones are a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, reggiegun said: If he’s struggling with stripping trigger on a falcon, no chance of setting up an fac FX impact 😂😂😂😂 I know two people who have returned Impacts for sealing issues - even after so called repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, bumpy22 said: There is a small alen key screw in the bolt next to indexing cog. Loosen this cycle the bolt through magazine retighten when bolt is down. The magazine will have to be set with the hole fully open not half way like it is when mag is full This will reset the bolt to magazine hpefully. The bolt should cycle freely then. Common issue with all moving parts loosening a bit The plastic magazine aren't great alloy ones are a lot better I've tried everything, so have several clever people including Falcon themselves, at the Game Fair many years ago, they sent me a new wheel and even that didn't work. Had another so called expert look at it about 3 years back and simply got a bill for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Dekers said: Ok, if logunator can fix my other issues we may be in business then I very much doubt its an if mate, if anyone can he can 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Dekers said: Great!! Have you removed your indexing wheel??? Ok, if logunator can fix my other issues we may be in business then, and I may be able to salvage mine, rather than starting from scratch and buying a new FAC Air. This is just one tool in the box, it doesn't get a great deal of use, but I have a few jobs it is essential for, I feel lost without it already. No need, it's made to not interfere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Thanks for input everyone. Managed to get the main problem fixed by a very clever guy on the south coast! Indexing is a known problem with Falcons, and I am now the owner of 2 x SMW magazines, which work great and solve the indexing issues! Feels like a new gun and a joy to use again, so £1.5-£2.5k on a new FAC Air can wait a while!!!!! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Dekers said: Thanks for input everyone. Managed to get the main problem fixed by a very clever guy on the south coast! Indexing is a known problem with Falcons, and I am now the owner of 2 x SMW magazines, which work great and solve the indexing issues! Feels like a new gun and a joy to use again, so £1.5-£2.5k on a new FAC Air can wait a while!!!!! 👍 Spot on 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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