mossy835 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 who has them and are they good, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Seem to be .had one in 20 b work well enough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacnud Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I have a 28 bore, bought it to try 28g without spending a lot of money. The gun handles and shoots well, for the money it appears to be well made. The trigger pulls were heavy 8lbs plus out the box so I had a gunsmith adjust them, now much better to shoot. Im not sure how it would last with heavy use but so far shooting clays once a week, 70 or so clays plus a few days game shooting over the last year it’s been fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliedog Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Had a junior 20b for about 3 years, trigger a bit agricultural but never any problems, children outgrown it now so may get an adult stock, about £90 brand new apparently. The gunsmith we purchased from had sold about 40 of them and had no returns. Dont think you would want it as a regular clay gun but occasional use or walked up would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 I bought new an OU .410, I was so impressed for the money and warranty I bought another in 12 bore. Both at the time under £500 each. I now the use 12 bore as my everyday field gun. It's also my go to gun for most things. I wouldn't be embarrassed using it on a game day. Only time will tell on its longevity it being alloy action. Most people scoff at them, but they generally haven't used one. The wood is I believe Turkish walnut and its very much pot luck in what you get in grade, my .410 if polished up would rival grade 3, however my 12 bore is more like a 1+. They don't come with much of a finish or polish. More a matt finish. It suits me. The engraving is ok but I'm more into functional than pretty. They are of course very light and if you're used to something like my Miroku MK38 sporter the difference in handling is noticeable. Suitable for steel and I have tried steel in the 12 bore. The .410 is happy with 9gram through to 19gram and I'm happy putting my usual 21gram clay loads through or using 32gram x 5s. The largest load I've tried being 34gram x 4s. The largest shot being 32gram x AAAs. I noticed no difference in recoil between 21gram & 32gram but probably would I suppose if I put 100 x 32s through as quick as a Sunday morning 100 bird clay shoot. They come with 5 chokes, skeet, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 & full. I use 1/4, 1/4 and a new matching replacement 1/4 was only £14 from Teal. I've recently started using mine for clays as well as pigeon/crow because it's lighter to carry and I walk with a stick and tire easy, I also have a huge scar in the bit of my shoulder that was designed for gun butts. They also have a soft recoil pad. I removed the auto safety, took around 10 - 12 mins and they're a better gun for it. I've had them both around 2 years now, they're cleaned after each outing, although to be fair the .410 doesn't see daylight that often. Neither have given me a moments worry or problem. The 12 bore is used 3 to 4 times a week. No doubt there are better guns out there and longer lasting ones but if you want cheap, cheerful, light and responsive they're definitely worth considering. I never buy with a thought to resale value only for what I can get in usage. I think as they're cheap to start with, resale value would be low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Got 1 in 20 its ok for the money its the type of gun you can put on floor or you don't mind getting knocked about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMc Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Got a Kofs Sceptre sporter 30". First brand new gun 2 years ago, can't fault, went from pot luck to actually being able to actively hit things! Wood does come up quite good with some oiling , mines functional so does get dinged up and at the price I can't complain too much. Watch for aftermarket chokes, it seems no two barrels are the same and some chokes will be tight/not fit at all or too loose. Got sorted in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Prefer the Yilditz. Had one or two not so good comments on Kofs but at that money I suppose you can expect the odd duff one. I have two 410 Yilditz which is all I shoot these days. Three hardish seasons and one had new springs and an overhaul (£90) couldn't grumble. They do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 On one shooting ground I took out the youth coaching Kofs 410. Club guns get used and abused - so a good test. In other words, how do they fare after all the punishment? After a year or so of being hammered, it wasn’t in good shape. The top leaver was reluctant to move and wouldn’t easily return to the closed position. The trigger was rough and the second barrel would sometimes refuse to fire off (I wasn’t hanging on to the trigger). So in short, not impressed. I ended up buying a Yildiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 I have a Kofs .410 for the grandkids. Cant fault it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Perhaps these Turkish 410s (Kofs, Yildiz, whatever) are OK for occasional use, but might not stand up to extended heavy wear….? If they introduced a steel action 410, I would be keen. Not sure how the ally actions will last in the longer term. I know there are 12s and 20s with steel actions. Perhaps the 410 next - hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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